From: rankamatr@aol.com (RankAmatr) Subject: Have you committed incest? #9 Date: 22 Sep 1996 12:13:41 -0400 Of all the taboos in human society, incest may be the greatest. No wonder, then, that it is also one of the best kept secrets.... We now know that incest is much more common than previously imagined. Many people first begin to fantasize sexually about family members. Cousins and siblings may help us explore another person's body for the first time. I want to hear from you if you have had sexual contact with a family member, and what impact that had on your lives. The story doesn't have to be very long, or detailed, or even sexy. Just let me know: ...with whom (brother, niece, father, aunt) ...at what age ...who initated the activity ...and how you feel about it now I assure you, the confidentiality of any information provided will not be compromised. If you have a story you would like to share, please send mail to RankAmatr@aol.com. Here are a few of the stories I have received so far. Thank you. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Starting when I was about 10 I spent several weekends over the course of several summers with my cousins who lived about 20 miles away in a small town. My male cousin, Warren, who was about half a year younger, showed me how to masturbate, (which I kind of already had figured out,) and we would do it to each other every chance we got. My older cousin, John, who was about three years older, joined us occasionally, and would sometimes suck our dicks. I was fasinated by their uncircumsised dicks and by the end of the summer we were all sucking each other every night I was there. Sometimes we took turns and other times we would figure out ways to get in different positions to suck each other all at the same time. John ejaculated semen, which was scant and I didn't mind swallowing. Warren's orgasms were dry, as were mine, at least the first summer and, I think, most of the second. John fucked Warren in the ass a couple of times while I was present. John would sometimes allow Warren to recriprocate in his asshole, but would usually suck him instead, and sometimes would give him money afterward. I remember that they called anal sex "cornholing." Warren let me cornhole him once in a while, which he seemed to enjoy. I would not let either of them do that to me, although John never quit asking for it and would put his fingers up my butt while he was sucking me, which I didn't mind. I wish, now, that I would have let them do it, at least once, so I would know what it felt like. Their older sister, Eva, who was about 16 at that time, knew about our activities and would find opportunities to let us get glimpses of her naked body, ie, in the bathroom or when changing clothes in her bedroom. She had nice titties and a hairy pussy. I suspect that John and Eva were having sex, but was never able to prove my suspicions. I often tried to have some kind of sex with Eva, but the closest I ever came was one night in the car on the way home from somewhere I stuck my hand under her skirt and played with her pussy in the dark. She pretended to be asleep. Even though I didn't know what I was doing, exactly, I got my finger inside her vagina and got her wet. That same year, when we were taking a bath together, I showed my younger brother, who was seven, how to masturbate and, later, I sucked his dick. With a little encouragement he would suck mine, but he would tend to lose attention after a short time until I figured out how to mutually suck each other in the 69 position. That way he came to realize that if he quit sucking mine, I would quit sucking his. Often, my brother would initiate sex by asking me if I was "hungry" which led to us sneaking off together to one of several isolated spots we used to have sex. Sex with my cousins was an occasional thing after a few summers, but I continued to have sex with my brother regularly for several years after that. I had him fuck me in the ass a couple of times, but he said he preferred having me suck him. He would never let me fuck his ass, and I didn't press the issue. He would let me put fingers up his ass while I sucked him, like my cousin had done to me. The reason we finally quit was because my parents found out and we got the big lecture from them and our church Pastor. After that we had to sleep in seperate bedrooms and were watched all the time when we were together so it was pretty hard to get together for sex, although we managed to do so once in a while. Today, my brother and I are practicing heterosexuals and neither of us, to my knowledge, have had sex with any other males outside the family. I did run into Warren when I was in College. We took a couple six-packs back to his apartment. After a few beers, he wanted to have sex, so we got naked and had mutual oral sex. I was kind of put off by his hairy body and his cock was, of course, adult sized and I had trouble fitting it in my mouth. When he came in my mouth I almost gagged. Afterwards, he wanted me to fuck him in the asshole, but I was too grossed out and couldn't get another hard-on. I wouldn't even consider letting him cornhole me. He was pretty disappointed, and he's never contacted me since then. As an aside, I find the pictures of naked young boys on the newsgroups to be sexually exciting, but grown men don't do anything for me. I would probably be open to a sexual experience with a young teen boy, but the risk of getting in deep trouble with the law make it not even worth considering. I consider my sexual experiences with my family members to have been a positive thing. I learned a lot and have a tolerance for gays and lesbians that a lot of people I've met don't have. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hope this helps: My mother worked 2nd shifts at a factory after i started jr high school, and my father used to be in charge of seeing that i did my homework, then bathed and went to bed on time. As a girl i used to parade around the house nude at bedtime, and didn't realize the effect it was having on my father as i reached menarche. At one point he got very flustered when i walked into the bathroom on him, naked and began brushing my teeth. He kept staring at my breasts, and i remember feeling what i now know is arousal. A couple nights later i was masterbating in bed when he came in to kiss me goodnight and caught me. I knew he had seen me, but he didn't say anything about it, just the usual things, talking about our day, family chit-chat. But his hug that night was more intense and he stayed sitting on my bed caressing me. i let him continue, but eventually he just kissed me and left. This continued for some time, with the caressing taking more and more time till finally he was touching me breasts and vagina, and bringing me to orgasm. I was only 13 at the time. It became our nightly ritual, and ocassionally at first started even before i got ready for bed. At some point i noticed he was rubbing himself while he got me off, and i asked him what he was doing, pretty much knowing, but not all the details. So he told me, and i asked him to show me, and could i do it for him like he did for me. Well this went on for a while, with me looking forward to our nightly sessions. Finally i had to ask him to fuck me. After that we were lovers, almost every night. We have been lovers ever since, even when i was dating, and since i've been married. it continues to be the best sex i've ever had, and it is entirely possible that some of my kids may be his. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I hope this helps: When I was about 13 & my cousin Hayley was 11, her brother Glenn about 7 or 8, we would play games whereby Hayley would end up naked & usually I (Occasionally Glenn) would rub her pussy or lick it. I was the one who started it, and no-one suffered from it. At 15, I started undressing my 8-year-old sister. Eventually, it got to the point where I would lick her ass & pussy & she would suck my dick. The last time was when my brother caught us. He said nothing to mom or dad, but we stopped nonetheless. I think she's now forgotten about it, but I still fantasize about her. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- My sister and i when we were about 6 or 7'ish were still having baths together, and we used to play things like house, like any other children. but this lead to "boyfriend and girlfriend" my sister seemd to know more about sex at the time then i did, and this soon lead to us trying to have sex. we didn;t know enough about it to get full penetration. but it still felt good. with in a few years all sexual contact had stoped. i tried to re initiate it, but it almost seems like my sister has forgoten it all. It has left me with a strange attraction for my sister even to this day, and if presented with the chance to do something again. i would. I hope this helps yer survey. and i would appreciate getting back other letters you have recieved. as i am interested also in the effect icest has on people at later ages. and other such things. [Ed. note: I don't redistribute mail. If it's interesting, you'll see it here.] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- If you have an incest experience you would like to share, please send it to: RankAmatr@aol.com. Anonymity guaranteed. [Thanks to 548@prostar.com who started this survey.] "You can't do this to me ... I'm a tourist ... I'm an American ... I'm a Republican!" -- Daulton Lee (Sean Penn), Falcon & the Snowman