Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:49:38 -0800 (PST) From: ds elliot Subject: When I First Met Mike - Part V (Gay Male/Beginnings Section) When I First Met Mike - Part V by ds elliot This is the story of two men discovering each other. This story contains episodes of sexual abuse, physical abuse, and verbal abuse. While this is a story of discovery and understanding and compassion, the reader must live through the pain to get to that point. All rights reserved. This story may not be distributed, sold, or linked to any other sites including pay sites without the express permission of the author. Copyright 2004. This story contains descriptions of sexual contact between two young men. This is a story of intimate sexual contact and discovery and well as forced sex and violence. If you are not of legal age in your area to read stories of this nature or if you are offended by stories of this nature, please navigate to another site and stop reading now. I would appreciate your comments, suggestions, and constructive criticisms. You can contact the author at: dselliot28@yahoo.com and now back to the story... Sightseeing with Gary was the perfect view of the city through a 15 year old boy's eyes. We saw all of the things he thought were most interesting in and around the city. We got to see the view from the city's tallest building. We also spent a lot of time near the water as Gary talked about boating and lamented the fact that his family didn't have one though he'd been trying to convince his parents to buy one for years. We also saw all of the sports arenas and learned more details than we needed about teams and players and coaches as well as team rankings and potentials for upcoming seasons. We ate a lot of food that day. It seemed that Gary couldn't pass up any offering of junk food. While I was just as tempted by the many items offered, I knew he'd burn off the calories in hours while it would take me weeks. We ended our tour of the city with a great dinner before we headed back to the hotel. Gary still had his bag in our room and needed to pick it up before heading home. Back in the room Gary asked it we didn't think it made more sense for him to spend one more night since we were going to the game on Sunday anyway. Neither of us argued against his logic so he called home to announce that he was spending another night. He got his mom when he called. She wasn't sure it was a good idea, but Gary got her blessing. Mark talked with Mike before he agreed to Gary's plan. Since Mike and I likely wouldn't do much more than sleep that night, it wasn't a problem for us. We all slept a little later than usual, and Gary stayed in his bed the whole night. The next morning when Mike and I were heading to the bathroom Gary asked if I planned to take care of Mike again in the shower. I told him that was my plan. He grinned and said that he'd take care of business while we were in there. I tossed him a towel when I entered the bathroom. Gary looked a little flushed when we finished in the bathroom. He didn't say too much as he headed off to shower. Once dressed we went down to have breakfast. Gary wanted to ask some personal questions, but was having difficulty getting started. I told him he should just say what was on his mind... that neither of us would be offended by any question he had. He started with safe and none too personal questioning then progressed to more intimate details of sex. He was so red as he asked his questions, but we both answered them honestly and directly in language we thought he'd understand (not too technical or clinical). I then talked to Gary about sex. I covered the topic from a homosexual point of view -- one he'd never heard before. We talked about taking chances with strangers and potential outcomes; we talked about diseases and the need for protection and knowing your partner; we talked about the mental maturity necessary to engage in sex and the responsibilities involved towards himself and his partner; we talked about coming out and the problems that could result at his age and with his goals. When we finished the 'talk' we were ready to head back to the room for a bit of rest before heading out to pick up Mark for the game. Mike got up and I followed. Gary stayed seated and was still blushing. I sat back down and asked if he was ok. He looked at me with a pained look on his face and said, "I can't get up right now. My dick is so hard. I can feel a wet spot on my shorts. Everyone will see if I stand up. I'm so embarrassed." "Don't be embarrassed, Gary. Erections happen. I'll sit here with you until it's under control ok?" "Yeah... it might take a while though..." "When it does go down a bit, you just stay close behind me and no one will see anything." "Thanks, Adam. You're so cool..." It took about 15 minutes for things to calm down for Gary. When he told me he was ready I stood up. He got up as I stood in front of him and followed me so closely it felt like he was glued to my left cheek. When the two of us were in the elevator alone he sighed and said, "Do you think anyone noticed? It felt like everyone was staring at me." "You were just feeling self conscious. I doubt anyone noticed anything. It does look like the big guy leaked at bit there. Do you need some time alone to take care of that thing?" "I'm so embarrassed. It's never done that before. I don't know why it happened." "Well we were having a pretty detailed sexual talk. It aroused me so I'm not surprised that you had a similar response." "You were hard while you were talking about that stuff?" "Yes... guys get hard all the time. Just the thought of sex is enough to get a guy going. You're normal, Gary. It's nothing unusual and certainly nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed by." "What are you guys gonna do when we get to the room?" "If you'd like some time by yourself in the room, I can take Mike out for a walk." "You're the best Adam. I think I'd have died if it had been anyone else. You're so easy to talk to about things. It's like you understand me." "Thanks! You're a great guy, Gary. I really like you... we both do. Always remember that you aren't alone. We're both always going to be there for you. Don't be worried about what we might think. We aren't judging you. I've been through the same things you're going through now so I can relate to what you're feeling. There isn't any dumb question. Never be afraid to ask a question or talk about your feelings." "I really love you guys. You're both so cool. I wish you lived here. I guess I'm not embarrassed around you. I never could have told anyone else, but well... you felt my dick poking you and didn't get mad about it. We talked about jackin' off and that was way cool. I mean all the guys talk about it but never say they actually do it. You're the first one I ever told. It felt kinda good to talk about it.. even joke about it. When my dad had the 'talk' with me when I was just a kid, he told me that all guys play with themselves so I knew it wasn't wrong or bad or anything, but I'd never talk to him about doin' it. That would just be too weird, but it isn't weird talkin' to you about it. You're just cool..." I ruffled his hair as I unlocked the door to the room. Mike was inside just relaxing in a chair as he reviewed some of the pictures we took the day before with our digital camera. I said, "Hey Mike, lets go for a little walk. I think we could use some fresh air." "Sure. That sounds like a good idea. We've got over an hour before we have to pick up Mark." When we headed to the door and Gary didn't follow Mike turned to him to ask if he was coming. Gary said, "I think I'll just stay here while you two have some alone time." Mike looked to me, and I nodded my head to assure him everything was fine. Once we were out of the hotel room Mike ask, "What happened to the two of you. I thought you were right behind me and didn't even realize you weren't until the elevator doors closed. Is Gary ok?" "He just had an awkward moment in the restaurant. It seems all of our sex talk got him a little too excited. He had an erection that had leaked through to his shorts. He was too embarrassed to get up so we waited until things calmed down. He'll likely use our 'alone time' to take care of some personal business." "I thought he already took care of that while we were in the shower." "He's just a kid. Kids need to take care of it often. He's just a normal boy with hormones driving him crazy. He'll get past this stage and be just fine." "I'm glad that he feels so comfortable talking with you. I probably would have been as embarrassed as he was if he'd told me about his problem. You handled it well. Though I can understand how it happened. I was a little aroused during your talk. You made it so plain and easy to understand -- no big or technical words. It was giving me some ideas..." "Maybe when we finish this walk, and Gary finishes masturbating we could go back to the room and discuss your ideas more thoroughly. I think Gary will need some fresh air by then." "We can't send him off alone." "What about if we lock him in the bathroom for an hour. That wouldn't be too traumatic for him would it?" "You're naughty. I'm surprised you didn't suggest that he just get comfortable and watch a live demonstration." "Now that is a novel idea... I'm sure he'd learn much better from seeing it happen right in front of him... like show and tell." We were both laughing as we walked around the area. We found a small park two blocks away and sat on the swings as we talked about the trip and the time we had left in Chicago. The game was a better experience than I was prepared for. Mark, at Gary's insistence, bought the four of us matching baseball hats. We looked the part of hometown fans though I really didn't care for the team all that much. As I looked over the team roster prior to game time, I noticed a familiar name -- someone I'd played ball with in college and lost complete track of over the years. I excused myself from the guys in an attempt to see if I could get to the locker room just to say 'hello'. As luck would have it, the team was just exiting the locker room when I arrived. My old teammate, Ryan, was just about to exit when I yelled his name. He looked at me with that puzzled look of 'who the hell are you' when it dawned on him who I was. He came over to talk for a couple of minutes as the team was heading for the field. We didn't have much time, but my main purpose was to see if I could get Gary into the locker room after the game to meet some of the team. Ryan told me that he could arrange that for us and said that he'd look for us after the game. I didn't say anything to anyone until the last inning. I told Mike that I'd made arrangements for Gary to meet some of the team in the locker room after the game. He said that he'd entertain Mark while we talked with the players. I didn't tell Gary where we were headed so he had no idea of what was to come. When my buddy spotted us he came and greeted us. Gary was in awe. I think the first time he was speechless. He escorted us into the locker room and introduced both of use to several of his teammates. To say that Gary was star struck would be an under statement. I don't know what was going through his mind as many famous players shook his hand and signed his new hat. As we left to let the players get showered and dressed to get home to their families, Gary was clutching that hat to his chest like it was gold. When we met up with Mike and Mark, Gary had found his voice and was excitedly showing his dad and Mike all of the signatures on his hat... there had to be at least a dozen of them. He told them about the players he'd met and was almost too excited to contain. When we got back to their home, Gary relived the locker room experience all over again with his mother and started to tell his sister, but she wasn't interested. Since dinner wasn't quite ready, Mark poured us each a glass of wine while we waited. We were visiting peacefully when we heard a still excited Gary on the phone with his best friend telling him all about the game and meeting the players. His best friend was invited over immediately to see the hat he got with all of the signatures. I was pretty sure even a tranquilizer wouldn't calm the boy down. We all just laughed as Mark said, "You realize that you've gained a friend and fan for life Adam. I don't think anything will top that experience. I'm glad you were able to do that for him. It's something he'll always remember I'm sure. We'll probably never hear the end of it." "I didn't think it would create so much excitement. I thought it would just be a nice treat to get to shake hands with some of the players he talks about all the time. He's got to be one of the teams biggest fans. You should have seen him in the locker room. He was actually speechless for a while. I was a little worried about him." "I'd have given anything to see that." Mark said as he laughed. "I don't think he's ever been speechless since he learned to talk." Gary's friend, Ben, must have lived pretty close. It seemed like he'd just hung up the phone when Ben came in the front door. He greeted the room and went to find Gary. When the two of them came back Gary introduced his brother and then me. He was still so full of energy and excitement that he couldn't sit still as he parked himself next to me on the sofa. Ben sat next to him and was a little crowded so I moved closer to Mike. Gary shifted too, but didn't leave a centimeter of space between us though now there was ample room. Ben stayed for dinner and joined in the conversation. He seemed like a regular part of the family. He was a stunningly good looking young man. His dark hair and eyes gave him a more mature appearance. He would be a lady-killer if he wasn't already. The girls were likely already lined up to date him. He'd be beating them off with a stick... or maybe not. Ben left shortly after dinner to finish his homework. Suddenly Gary got a look on his face that said 'oh yeah... I forgot all about that'. We didn't stay too much longer that evening. Mark made arrangements to spend some alone time with Mike to discuss his abduction and imprisonment. Gary got a promise from both of us that we'd be at his Wednesday game. He also said that he'd call us after practice tomorrow. Mike and I finally had some time to ourselves. While we'd been together all the time, we hadn't really had any time for ourselves since we arrived in Chicago. We wasted no time getting ready for bed and proceeded to make love to each other. The first round was more lust than love as we made up for lost moments. The second time was more relaxed... slower... more of a tender expression of our love for each other. Sleep came easily that night. I slept soundly as did Mike. We wandered back into town on Monday and did some sightseeing on our own. We got to see a few things that appealed to us. It was a nice day of togetherness as we shared our experiences. When we tired of the sights Mike wanted to do a little shopping. He never seemed to want to shop, but once he got started there was no stopping him. We each ended up with a couple of new outfits that he selected. He also picked up something for each member of his new family. He'd put a lot of thought into each gift that he bought. When he finished shopping he had the gifts wrapped and tagged. We were back and the hotel and changing for dinner when the phone rang. I answered. It was Gary. He said, "Adam, I don't know if I thanked you for the game yesterday or not, but I wanted you to know it was the absolute best! I had a great time. All the guys on my team were jealous when I told them that you knew one of the players and got us into the locker room. They all thought it was totally awesome. I told them about meeting all the guys and them signing my hat. It was the best!" "You're welcome. I'm really glad that you had fun." "So what are you guys doing?" "We're just getting ready to head out to dinner." "Yeah... mom's fixing leftovers for us. I'd rather go out with you. Um Adam? Tomorrow when Mike and dad go to dinner to talk, what are you gonna do?" "I really hadn't thought about it. I don't have any plans." "Would you maybe want to have dinner with me? I mean... you'll probably be bored all alone while they're gone. I could always keep you company if you want." "I think that is an excellent idea. You need to ask your parents first though especially since it's a school night." "Yeah... I already did. They said it was fine with them. I'll just come to the hotel with dad." "Great! I'll see you when you get here. You can pick the restaurant since you know the town." "Adam... umm... I'm not bothering you am I? Jen told me I was being a total pest and a pain in the ass." "No, you aren't bothering either of us. We like spending time with you. You're great company. I'm looking forward to tomorrow evening. I'm sure I just would have sat here in the hotel alone. Having dinner with you is much more exciting." "You aren't just saying that to be nice? You really mean it right?" "I really mean it Gary. You've become a great friend. I like having you around. In fact I'll really miss you when we finally go back home." "I'll miss you too. Ok... well I'll see you tomorrow night then. Have a good dinner. Tell Mike 'hi' for me. Later..." "You enjoy those leftovers. I'll see ya tomorrow, Gary. Later buddy." "Sounds like you've got plans for tomorrow night. I shouldn't be jealous should I?" Mike asked when I hung up the phone. "You are kidding right? He's a great kid. Jen told him he was being a pain in the ass and a pest. I think he was just feeling a bit insecure." "Of course I'm kidding. He's gonna be lost when we leave. I feel bad in a way about that. He has such a big heart." "He really does. It's a pleasure having him around actually. He adds a level of excitement with his constant chatter. I don't remember being like that when I was that age, but I probably was." Gary's game was great fun -- way more fun than the professional game. We were closer to the field for one thing. Gary played his heart out that night. He had two great hits that knocked in three runs. He was all over first base. The rest of the team seemed to play just as hard. There were no egos getting in the way of the game at this stage. These guys were playing for the love of the game and nothing more. To me it was the best part of the game... pure, honest competition. Gary's parents attended the game too so we all had pizza together after the game was over. Gary was excited that his team won. I think he'd have been so disappointed if they hadn't won. When Gary finished eating he was definitely tired. The energy he spent at the game required sleep to replenish. Gary's parents took him home while Mike and I decided to catch a late movie before going back to the hotel. I happened to answer the phone when Mark called Thursday morning. Mike had just gotten in the shower. I was surprised that Mark wanted to talk with me. He started by saying, "Adam, I want to thank you for saving my son... both of them. Mike told me what he live through for those four years. I've never felt so much pain as I did when he told me about his experiences. I can't thank you enough for being there that night. He told me how close he was to ending his life when he met you. You really are a savior." "I'm not sure what motivated me at the time. The man I found on the street was but a shell of the man Mike is today. You'd never recognize him as the same person. It's been hard on him, but he did it. He's moved on and away from that ordeal. There were many times when I wasn't so sure that would happen. Mike's a strong man inside... he'd have to be to survive what he's lived through so far in his life." "I agree, but it was your help and support that got him to where he is today. As his father I can't thank you enough for what you've done. I only wish I could have been there for him when it mattered most in his life. I don't think I will ever be able to forgive myself for not being more involved when I should have been. More than anything I want you to know that I want to be involved now. I know it's too late to make up for lost time, but I do want to be a part of his life -- your lives -- now and in the future." "I'm sure Mike would like to hear that. I certainly am happy to know that. I didn't want this to be just a one-time visit especially since it seems to have turned out so well for everyone. You and your family are all welcome to visit us whenever you like. Call and email as often as you have time. I know Mike will want to stay in touch with all of you. It's important for him to have this family base." "I told Mike how I felt. He seemed pleased, but I wanted to tell you too. You are a major part of Mike's life, and that makes you part of our family too. You're also a big part of Gary's life. He thinks you're the greatest thing since sliced bread. He hasn't stopped talking about either one of you since he met you both." "Gary is a great young man with a bright future. He's a pleasure to have around. I'm the youngest in my family so I never had the little brother experience either. It's probably as much fun for me as it is for him." "I'm glad to hear you say that. I don't think Mike would ever say if Gary was intruding or being a pest. He just seems to be too positive and too nice to ever say anything that was even the least bit negative." "You just haven't known him long enough. He's not afraid to tell me when I've done something he doesn't like. I do know what you mean though. Mike has a big heart and is a genuinely kind and gentle man. He is very open and giving of himself. I can't tell you how much I love him. He's done as much to enrich my life as I've done for him." "The love you two share shows in your eyes and the way you treat each other and people in general. You are both good men -- men I'm proud to have as sons. The next part of what I wanted to say concerns Gary. He's planning to ask if he can spend Friday and Saturday with you at the hotel. He asked us this morning at breakfast. He knows you leave Sunday and wants more time. I have been trying to get him interested in something else, but so far that hasn't worked. If you have anything else planned, please don't feel bad telling Gary no. He can be a little bit headstrong. He gets that from his mother, but don't tell her I said that." "We really don't have any firm plans at all. It's been a nice vacation really -- very relaxed and unhurried. I personally wouldn't mind having Gary for the last weekend if you don't mind. I know Mike would like it just as much. In fact Mike has already been discussing plans for things to do when Gary comes to visit this summer. So far he's got quite a long list." "I wasn't going to broach that subject until later, but since you brought it up... are you sure you really want him to visit this summer? He can be a bundle of energy. I know he probably invited himself. You don't have to feel obligated to have him as a house guest." "Actually we're both looking forward to it. We've got a camping trip planned and since Gary likes boats and my parents live on a large lake I thought it would be the perfect time to teach them both how to water ski. It will be great fun for us." "As long as you're sure. We can discuss the details later when it gets closer." "Did you want to talk with Mike? He just opened the bathroom door so he's available if you'd like." "No. This call was to talk with you. We'll see you before you leave though. You have a good day." "You too, Mark. We'll see you when you drop Gary off Friday after school." "Who was that you were talking to? Mike asked as he exited the bathroom. "Mark. He called to tell me he appreciated hearing what happened to you and thank me for being there for you. He also wanted to let me know that Gary asked this morning if he could stay with us this weekend. He wanted to be sure we knew we could say no if we had other plans." "I'm glad that he wants to stay with us. I think I'll miss him the most. He's been so great to have around." "That's almost exactly what I said. He's coming Friday after school. I suppose he'll call after practice to see if he can. Maybe we should beat him to the punch and invite him to stay with us. I think that would make him happy." "Do you have anything in particular you want to do today?" "Not really... just as long as whatever we do I can spend it with you." "Let's go to his practice again and invite him to spend the weekend. It looks like it will be a nice day. I don't really feel like doing any more sightseeing though I would like to stop by the mall again if that's ok with you." "Sounds like a plan!" When we arrived at the high school, practice was already underway. Gary was so excited to see us walk to the bleachers that he wasn't paying attention to the play on the field and missed an easy out. The coaches bitched a little, but Gary seemed oblivious to their remarks. He settled back into the game quickly once we were seated. After practice we had a few minutes to talk with him and invite him to spend the weekend. He was as excited as we'd anticipated and agreed. He told us he'd bring his things to school Friday and come over right after. We decided to leave the details to Gary and his parents with instructions to call us to let us know the arrangements. His mom was picking him up and was parked a few spaces from us when we walked to the car. We told her what we'd done. She said, "You've made that young man's day. He was planning to call you tonight to ask if he could stay." "Mark called this morning and mentioned that. We thought we'd beat him to the punch this time. You've got a great son there." "He really is a good kid. I couldn't ask for more. He does well in sports, especially baseball. His grades are good. He's got a lot of friends and seems pretty popular at school at least. He's never been any trouble at all. Now Jen on the other hand pushed all a parent's buttons. She was a bit of a rebel when she was his age. I'm so glad that he isn't like that. I don't think I could have survived two like her." "She seems like a typical college student, though she has been a little quiet around us. We thought she was just shy or not all that anxious to meet a new member of the family." Mike said. "Looks are deceiving with that one. She and Gary get along just fine, but she has always been independent and travels to the beat of her own drum. She can play the sweet daughter role, but that isn't Jen. She tends to reserve judgment until she feels she's got all the facts and then she hits you with both barrels when she expresses her point of view. She can be very direct and often has little regard for how her remarks effect other people. She's always been one to do what she wanted despite our objections or plain refusal when she was younger. She'd climb out her bedroom window and climb across the roof and down to go out when we told her she couldn't. A few time the police brought her home for minor reasons, but it was a shock the first time for Mark and I. We thought she was asleep in her bed." We both laughed. Jen seemed like a typical college student. We learned that she had a wild streak. She didn't fit that image. And so our time in Chicago wound down. We managed to keep Mike entertained that last weekend without any problems at all. He seemed more than happy to do whatever we wanted just so he could spend more time with each of us. He did have more sex related questions that we talked about Saturday evening as we were getting ready for bed. He was sporting wood as he stripped down to his boxers for bed. I was a little surprised that he wasn't more shy about it, but he seemed to be totally comfortable around us in any situation. That was probably a good thing for all of us especially if he planned to continue to use us as a sounding board and knowledge resource. Our flight out wasn't until mid afternoon that Sunday. After we woke up and dressed for the day, we packed all of the things we'd scattered about the room. It didn't take us too long to finished with Gary's help. Mike still had the shopping bag with gifts for his family that he planned to pass out at breakfast. Mark, Anne, and Jen were meeting us at the hotel restaurant to share our last meal in town before we headed to the airport. Gary and I took all the bags to the car while Mike did a final check of the room. When we got back Gary's eyes were a little moist. He said, "I'm really gonna miss both of you. This has been the best time in my life. I'm so glad you both came. I just want to..." I pulled Gary into a tight hug and kissed him on the cheek. When I released him, Mike stepped in and did the same. Gary kissed each of us in return. When that part was over I said, "We're gonna miss you too buddy. I can't wait until summer. Mike's already started a list of things to do when you visit. We also wanted to give you a hug and kiss before we left the room cause it's probably not cool to do that in front of your parents." "I really wanted to do that too... I just didn't know how to do it I guess. You guys really are the best." We found a table in the restaurant to accommodate all of us and waited for the rest of the group to arrive. I checked us out of the hotel while we were waiting. Breakfast was filled with 'thanks for coming', 'glad to meet you', 'hope you'll visit us again', and all the rest of the usual things said at family partings with the exception in this case being that everyone seemed to honestly mean what they said. We were looking forward to doing this again one day. Before we left, Mike passed out the packages he had for each person. They were surprised to each get a gift. He encouraged them to open them before we left. Gary was the first to get his box open. He was thrilled by the team jacket Mike picked out. Jen liked the earrings he selected. Anne liked the pearl pendant necklace he gave her and had Jen fasten it for her. Mark got a very nice pen and pencil set and a framed picture Mike had developed of Gary, Mike, and me. Everyone had tears in their eyes as we all headed to our cars. I think Gary's emotions were getting the best of him. He hugged Mike one last time and then turned to me. When he hugged me he whispered in my ear 'Thank you so much. I love you.' His body was trembling as he struggled to hold back the tears. I told him that I loved him too and couldn't wait until summer. We were finally off! Gary called us that Sunday evening just shortly after we arrived home. He was just checking to see that we made it. We talked for about half an hour before I heard his dad tell him it was past his bedtime. School started for Mike on Monday. I went back to work. By the time that week was over, it didn't feel like we'd been gone at all. We were back in our routines and busy all the time. Work continued to keep me busier than I really wanted most of the time. The office next to ours was being vacated so I talked with the building manager about getting a bit of that space. He was willing to work with me so I asked for half of the newly available space. When the deal was done I had my dad's company remodel the addition and make some changes in our floor plan to make the space more user friendly. The plans were drawn up and approved. I started to look for a third dentist to add to the practice. It took over a month to find the right person for the job -- a young woman who'd been with another practice for the past two years. The added space allowed each of us three treatment chairs so we could maximize our time as well as more office space. We increased the size of the reception area as well as Karen's work area. We then started the process of finding another tech and a helper for Karen. Everyone seemed to be happy with the changes even though it was a little difficult during the construction/remodel phase. Spring quarter seemed to go especially well for Mike. It was almost like he figured college out and mastered it. He wasn't struggling with any of his classes and would be raising his gpa if his finals went as well as his mid terms. We continued with our volunteer work at the mission, but neither of us had as much free time to devote as we once did. Mike had considered looking for a summer job, but I told him to wait to see when Gary would be coming to visit. I suspected that Gary would want to come the same day school was out, but we hadn't heard for certain what the plan was at their end. Someone would need to be around when Gary visited. Mike agreed to that plan. It was mid May when we heard from Gary telling us when he would be arriving. He had his plane ticket and gave us all the details. He was so excited as he rattled off the flight number, arrival time, gate number, and anything else he could decipher on the ticket. He would be arriving on the 16th of June -- two days after his last class. He told me that he was coming for a month. He confided that his parents didn't know that yet so I wasn't supposed to tell them. He'd contacted the airlines and changed his return date already. Mike was surprised by the length of his stay, but was still pleased that he was coming. It gave us more time to do the many things on Mike's long list. The day of Gary's arrival was here before we knew it. His plane was a bit late arriving so we had ample time to mentally prepare ourselves for the energy level he'd be bringing with him. He nearly bounded off that plane and into the waiting area where we were standing. He spotted us before we saw him. I had just enough time to plant my feet solidly on the floor as he all but leap into my arms and gave me a huge hug. Mike had a bit longer to prepare and got the same treatment. He chattered non stop about the trip and the person sitting next to him on the plane. I've a feeling that poor person got his whole life story and his plans for the summer and the future. He was naturally hungry -- what boy isn't. We went to baggage claim to collect his luggage and head out. Traffic was a mess, but Gary entertained us with tales of the last few months as well as conveying the good wishes and thanks of his family. Our first stop was dinner at a good casual restaurant. We ate and talked the entire time. It really was good to have Gary with us again. He was sweet, funny, innocent, and a bundle of energy just waiting to be focused. We got him settled in one of the spare rooms at our condo and gave him the nickel tour of the place. He unpacked his clothes and put his toiletry items in the bathroom. He was all moved in within an hour or so with our help. He brought a gift from his family for Mike and me. It was a nice gesture on their part. Gary also handed over money that his dad had instructed him to give to us to help defray the cost of his stay. We weren't concerned about the money so set it aside for him to spend on things he wanted while he was here. We all got comfortable and talked until well after midnight. I was working in the morning so headed to bed first. Mike and Gary weren't too far behind. I got up at my usual time to get started on the day. Gary wandered out of his room looking all the worse for the wear. I asked, "Why are you up so early? Couldn't you sleep?" "No I slept good. I'll probably go back to bed, but I just wanted to see you before you left for work." "That's very nice of you, and seeing your handsome face is sure to make my day a better one. Would you like some orange juice while I drink my coffee?" "Um... sure, I guess. It's too early to think. What time do you start work anyway?" "I start at 7:00. I've got a pretty full morning, but I asked Mike to bring you by the clinic around 1:00 so we can all have lunch together. I've only got a few patients to see after that then I'll be home. It looks like it's gonna be a great day so maybe we can put a picnic together and head to the park. It will give us a chance to toss a ball around and play Frisbee. It's a nice place to relax." "That sounds great." he said as he finished his juice and rinsed the glass before setting it in the sink. He then said, "Well, I think I'm gonna go back to bed. Is Mike still asleep?" "Yes. I don't imagine he'll get up for a couple more hours." "Cool. Well have a good day, and I'll see you for lunch." and with that he padded off to his room. The morning flew by at work. Mike and Gary were talking with Karen when I finished up and was ready to head out. We were just going to the deli on the main floor so it wasn't a huge undertaking. Gary asked lots of questions about the practice -- mainly if I owned it and all those people worked for me. He really liked Karen, mother hen that she was. She knew he would be coming by so had a batch of homemade cookies for him when he arrived. She knew the best way to win friends instantly. At the park (a park that was gay friendly with a lot of gay activity and gay people everywhere) we spread out the blanked and took off our shoes, socks, and shirts. It took a little while for Gary to realize that most of the guys in the park were gay. When he did he asked, "Are all these people gay? Is this a gay park?" "The park is in the middle of a heavily gay populated area so most of the guys are gay, but not all of them. I do want you to stick close to us though because many of the guys are cruzin' for sex. I don't want you wandering off with anyone." "This is pretty cool! I never knew there were places like this with just gays. I like this place. Look over there... those two guys are kissing and touching each other. That is so weird... I mean... I've just never seen that before. It seems strange to see it in public like this." Gary and I put on the baseball gloves and played catch for a while when before too long a guy about Gary's age asked if he could join in. We all introduced ourselves. Andy shook hands with Gary and I and then walked over to introduce himself to Mike. We tossed the ball around for a long time and only occasionally yelled a comment to each other since there was a fair distance between each of us. Mike called Gary and told him to put some sun screen on his shoulders so he didn't burn. Gary got the bottle from Mike and was about to squirt some in his hand when Andy ran up to him and offered to rub some on for him. I watched as Andy rubbed the lotion into Gary's shoulders and back and then onto his arms. He was doing a very thorough job, and Gary seemed to be enjoying it. The two of them stood about six feet apart after that and talked while I was some distance away throwing first to one and then the other. I could see that they were both talking the whole time, but was too far away to hear the conversation. Mike eventually called us to eat. I jogged over to the boys and asked if Andy would like to join us. He quickly agreed. There was plenty of food, soda, and utensils for all of us. We had a good time talking as we ate mostly learning about Andy. He had turned 16 only a few weeks before and was using his mom's car that afternoon/evening. By the time dinner was over, it seemed like Gary and Andy had known each other all their lives. They giggled and told dumb jokes as well as talked with us. As we cleaned up after dinner, Andy's cell phone rang. It was his mother wondering where he was. He told her where he was and what he was doing. We could over hear him telling her that we were nice people and not criminals. We had to laugh. When he finished the call he said, "Well it looks like I gotta go. My mother is over protective. She worries about everything. Anyway, I just wanted to thank you guys for a good time and a great meal." Turning to Gary he said, "I hope we can get together again while you're in town. If you want I can give you my cell phone number so you could call me. If you give me your number, I'll put it in my phone now so I don't lose it." Gary asked, "Would it be ok if Andy calls me at your place?" "Of course. Do you know the phone number? "Yeah... I call it every week." Gary rattled off the number as Andy keyed it into his phone. The two of them walked to his car and talked a bit longer. When he came back to join us on the blanket, Gary was all smiles. He said, "He's really a nice guy. What did you guys think?" "Andy seemed very nice. He was polite and had good manners. It looks like the two of you got along fine." "Yeah we did. He's into baseball and plays on his school team. He has a Play Station at home, but he really wants to check out my XBOX. He wants to do something together this week. Would that be ok with you?" "I'd like to know him a little better first." Mike said. "Why don't you invite him over and the three or four of us can do something until we know him a little better." "Sure... that would be cool. He can't always get the car, but I told him where we live and he knows the area. He said he could take a bus from his place." "Sounds like you guys have it all worked out already." "Yup." Back at the house Gary and I were sitting on the sofa just vegging while some movie played on the tv. After a bit of time Gary said to me, "It felt good when he rubbed the sun screen on me. I thought I'd pop a boner when he touched me. Do you think he's cute?" "He's an attractive guy." ""Yeah he is." Gary said a bit too dreamily. "He told me that he never just talked to someone in the park before, but he said that he really wanted to meet me cause he thought I was good looking. He asked if I was gay so I said are you... we both laughed at the same time. He told me that he isn't out to anyone. I told him I was out to you guys. I feel kinda weird asking this, but would it be ok with you if we maybe dated or whatever?" "I don't mind the dating idea once we know him a little better. I'm not so crazy about the whatever part though. I don't want you to rush into a relationship or sex. You need to think long and hard before you start that aspect of your life. I know we can't stop you from doing what you want to do, but I hope you'll take it slow and not go too far too fast." "I understand Adam. You remember that talk you had with me about sex when you were in Chicago? I gave that same talk to some of my buddies who were goin to far too fast. I changed it around to by guys and girls of course, but I think it helped a few of them see that the most important part of sex is being ready and mature enough to handle the responsibilities. I'd be really happy to just hold Andy's hand and cuddle with him... maybe kiss him. It would be my first real kiss if we do." "I think kissing, holding hands, and cuddling are just fine. Just remember that you don't want to rush him either. You're already one step ahead of him because you've got us for information and help. He probably doesn't have someone to help him with his feelings. If you want, you can tell him that we'd be happy to talk with him too." "That would be really cool Adam. You really are so awesome. I think I'm gonna go to bed and think about Andy." "Is that all you're gonna do is think?" Gary blushed and said, "Well maybe a bit more... just thinking about him rubbing my shoulders makes me bone up." Andy did call Gary the next morning. Mike said they talked for over an hour. Gary invited him to come over as they ended their talk. Andy was there within the hour. Gary brought his XBOX and hooked it up to the tv so they could play that when he came over. Mike said Gary was nearly a nervous wreck as he got ready for his company. Mike gave them space when Andy arrived, but did check on them every so often just to make sure nothing too serious happened. When I got home it was late afternoon. I was frantically trying to tie up all the loose ends at the clinic before taking the next two week offs. The plan was to go camping for some of that time. I thought it would be good for Gary to have his companion join us if we could get his mother's approval. I told the guys about my idea. Everyone was excited, but Andy didn't think his mom would let him go. I told him to call her and ask her to stop by for dinner this evening so we would meet. He was hesitant at first, but the thought of getting out of town with his new friend caused him to at least give it a try. It took some pleading on his part, but his mother agreed to come for dinner. This meeting the parents thing was stressful at best. His mother wasn't all that friendly at first, but she seemed to calm some when she realized that two of her coworkers were patients of mine. In fact I'd been recommended to her by both. Andy's mother was having problems with some previous dental work that was causing her pain. She was given the earliest appointment available, but that wasn't until the coming week. I told her that I'd be glad to see her first thing in the morning if she was available. She didn't want to miss work on such short notice so I told her I'd be happy to see her at 7:00 to at least assess the problems and start treatment. She agreed. Our evening with Mrs. Carr got much more pleasant after that was arranged. She seemed much more willing to entertain the idea of her son being on a camping trip for four days with nearly complete strangers. Everyone was on their best behavior so she should have been impressed. Bright and early the next morning I was at the office taking care of Mrs. Carr. The problem wasn't serious, but I could easily see it would be painful. I created a temporary fix to stop the pain and took an impression of the area to order a new porcelain crown. It would take about a week to get it back, but the temporary fix would last at least that long. I told her that if she wanted to wait until I returned from vacation I'd be happy to put it in for her and if not one of the other dentists could do it for her. She said she preferred to wait for my return. I had Karen schedule her for the first day I was back at 7:00 again. Mrs. Carr seemed to be very pleased as she left the office. Andy called that night to say that he got permission to go camping with us. He asked what he needed to bring so I told Gary to just tell him to bring clothes. Gary read him the list he had of clothes to pack and offered to put his stuff in his backpack if Andy didn't have one. Mike kept Gary and Andy busy the next few days with trips to various stores to get all the necessary items for the trip. He let them pick out most of the food -- especially the junk food that we'd need. They also made a trip to my parent's home to get an extra sleeping bag and fishing pole for Andy. The place I selected to camp was far enough out of town to be wilderness, but not so far that it required a big hike. We were able to drive the Jeep (I borrowed my dad's Cherokee) within a short distance from our camp site. We unloaded the tent first and got that set up. We then filled it with the sleeping bags, clothes, and some of the food. We brought two coolers with us filled with food items as well as soda and juice. We stored them in the tent for the time being. I took Andy and Gary with me to gather wood so we'd be able to have a fire later in the day. Once we gathered enough wood for a few days, we each took one of the fishing poles and walked down the river a ways. I showed the guys how to bait the hooks and cast. The boys wandered down river a short ways while Mike and I fished the same general area. Mike was the first to land a fish. It was a nice sized trout. I had to help him reel it in, but he was quite proud of his catch and couldn't wait to get another. Gary caught one next so I jogged down river bank to help him reel his in. It too was a keeper. Mike got another bite on my pole and was reeling it in when I got back to him. He did a good job bringing in another decent sized trout. Andy finally got a bite on his line so I went to help him. We had plenty of fish for dinner and all within a few hours. I was surprised. I told them they were all just lucky... that it was beginner's luck. They each took turns ribbing me about not catching anything. Everyone had a good laugh at my expense. We fixed sandwiches for lunch along with chips and soda. When we cleaned up from that we all decided to get some sun. I rubbed tanning lotion on Mike's back. Andy rubbed the lotion on Gary's back. Gary then applied lotion on Andy's back and since I rarely burned, I went without. They sunned while I cleaned the fish and stored them in one of the coolers. It was so peaceful and relaxing -- with just the sounds of birds chirping and the river water running over the rocks. Mike seemed to really be enjoying the escape from the city. We talked quietly as we sunned our bodies. It was about 3:00 when it became just too hot to stay in the sun. I thought it would be a good idea if we all swam a little. There was an area of the river where the water pooled into a calmer swimming hole. The water in this pool was likely not more than about eight feet deep with a gradual slope from the bank to the deepest part. It was perfect for any caliber swimmer. We all took off our shoes and socks. I took off my shorts and jumped in the water. I'm pretty sure I shocked the rest of the guys, but one of the best parts about camping was skinny dipping. To me it was total freedom. Mike joined me soon after he shed his clothes. Gary and Andy were looking a little unsure, but with some encouragement from us they eventually stripped and jumped in. It was obvious why both were a bit shy and uncertain, but the cold water would calm them down in no time. We horsed around in the water for nearly two hours until the sun started to dip behind the nearby mountains. Once out of the water we dried off a bit and grabbed our clothes and walked back to the campsite. I started a fire while the rest of the guys dried off and dressed. When the fire was going I dressed and started to get things ready for dinner. We were going to have our trout. Our fire pit was large enough to get all the fish cooking at one time. We had potato salad and fresh fruit with our fish. It was very good. The boys seemed especially amazed. They both said it was the first time they'd ever fished. When we finished dinner and cleaned up the mess, it was totally dark. Neither Mike, Gary, or Andy could believe how many stars were in the sky. We all laid on our backs and looked at the stars. I got up to get a pillow for Mike. When I did I noticed that Gary and Andy were holding hands. It was cute... so innocent and yet filled with so much meaning for them both As the campfire started to die down we were all yawning. I found the lantern and lit it then took it in the tent with me. I zipped Mike and my sleeping bags together and then spread out the other two. It was a big tent with plenty of room to maneuver around in so no one would be crowded or cramped. When I got finished with that chore I told the guys we should get some sleep so we'd be ready for tomorrow. Gary and Andy wanted to know what was planned. I told them we were going on a hike so we'd have to eat breakfast and then make a lunch to take with us. Both boys wanted to know where we were going. This was an alpine wilderness area with seven small lakes up in the mountains a short way from our camp. I told them we were going to explore the lakes and maybe do some sun bathing and swimming. Andy asked, "More skinny dipping?" "Not if it makes you uncomfortable. Just grab an extra pair of shorts. You can wear those to swim in." "No... I thought that was pretty cool. I want to do that again. I've never done that before." "I liked it too." Gary chimed in. And so we settled into our sleeping bags and drifted off to sleep after telling each other good night. When I woke up the next morning -- way before everyone else -- I noticed that Gary and Andy were snuggled up together in their own separate sleeping bags. I drifted back to sleep until I felt Mike stir. We both got up and tried to sneak out of the tent quietly so as not to wake the boys. We wandered together to a tree several feet away to take a morning leak. When we got back to camp we grabbed the shorts we'd worn last night and put them back on. The morning air was brisk so we huddled together until I got a decent fire going again. We sat by the fire as we cuddled and enjoyed the peacefully quiet start of the day. Eventually I started a pot of camp coffee. It wasn't too long after that was going when the boys exited the tent both wearing the shorts from the day before. They headed off to the the area away from the tent to relieve themselves. When they returned I started breakfast... bacon and eggs with Mike trying to make toast. We added some fresh fruit to it all and had a great meal. Andy wasn't too talkative in the morning. We didn't know him well, but I suspected he just wasn't a morning person. That proved to be the case. Once he finished breakfast he was the guy we'd come to know. Andy and I cleaned up our mess from breakfast while Gary and Mike made our lunches. Once everyone was ready we headed out to explore the small lakes. As the hike progressed, Andy was walking with me while Gary and Mike were coming behind us both engaged in conversation. As we were walking mostly uphill Andy asked. "Hey Adam... can I ask you a question?" "Sure... ask anything you want." "Well... it's probably stupid..." "Andy, nothing is stupid if it's on your mind. I'm here to help with whatever you'd like to know." "Yeah... Gary says you're pretty cool. It's kinda personal... um.. well I've never done anything before, I'm probably the only virgin in the state. I feel kinda dumb cause I don't... well... I mean... look, I like Gary a lot. I just want to do everything, but I'm kinda scared. I also don't know what he's gonna think about my dick. All the guys make fun of me cause I'm not circumcised. I think I'm the only guy who isn't... well at least that I know anyway. What if Gary doesn't like it or makes fun of it too?" "As for the first part... you aren't the only virgin in the state. I'm sure you know a lot of guys brag about doing things that they've never actually done just to be cool. I suspect there are a lot more virgins your age than you'd suspect. In fact it's been my experience that the guys who brag the most have actually done the least. To the second part... It's ok to be scared. Having sex with someone is a huge step. You need to make sure you've picked the right person to have sex with -- especially the first time. It could be a very bad experience if you don't. Along with that too is knowing that the other person involved wants to do what you want to do -- that no one is forced to do something they aren't ready to handle. There is a lot of responsibility associated with having sex...." I continued my sex talk. As I came to the end of that aspect of our discussion I broached the third part of his question... "Andy you shouldn't worry about guys making fun of your dick. Being uncircumcised is a bit unusual in this country, but it isn't a bad thing. The guys likely tease you about it because it's different for one thing, but they also tease you about it because they like you. Most of them are probably jealous of the fact that their foreskins are gone. I'm sure they'd really like the feelings they'd get if their foreskin was intact. I don't know what Gary thinks about that at all, but he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who'd make fun of you. Gary has a big heart. He's one of the nicest guys I think you'll ever meet. The two of you should talk about it together... and talk about sex too. That way you know where you both stand on some very important issues to both of you." "So what? I'm just suppose to ask him to check out my dick to see if he likes it?" "Sure... what's wrong with that? It's a part of you. Since Gary likes you, I'm sure he'll like that part of you too. Talk to each other about that stuff. It's important. Tell him how you feel about sex... that you're scared. He's likely in the same situation. I'm sure he'd like to do a lot of things, but I'm not sure either of you are ready for all of that yet. There is nothing wrong with going slow and discovering yourselves and each other in the process." "You don't think he'll think I'm lame cause I haven't done anything before?" "I don't think he will at all, but you'll have to talk with him to be sure. The most important thing to remember is that you shouldn't do anything at all until you're ready and you want to. It's like skinny dipping... if it bothers you at all you shouldn't do it. I probably shouldn't have just stripped off and jumped in the water without telling you guys what I was doing, but to me that is the best part of camping... the freedom... being away from everyone in the city to just enjoy nature and life. Just because I like that doesn't mean that the rest of you have to. Sometimes I forget that not everyone thinks the same way I do." "I was freaked at first... and I was starting to bone up when I saw you get naked. I just didn't want you guys to see me like that. It was weird really at first, but once I got in the water that part was over... no one could really see anything at all. It was pretty cool to play around like that with you guys. After a little while I kinda forgot all about it. I do want to do it again, but I'm gonna be the first one in the water this time so I can see everyone else." "That's always the best position to be in. You figured out my scheme." "Gary was right. You are pretty cool. I never talked to an older guy before about sex and stuff. My dad isn't around and well I never knew anyone else that I could just talk to about stuff." "Andy, you can talk with me any time you'd like about anything. If I don't know the answer, I'll find it for you. Never feel like you don't have someone to talk to or someone to go to get help or answers to your questions. "Thanks, man. I really appreciate that." When we got to the top of the plateau with the lakes we started to explore the area. One of the lakes had a small waterfall trickling into it from a higher stream. We decided that this was the most appealing lake of the group. There wasn't a soul around except for the four of us. Within minutes Andy and Gary had stripped down and were in the water calling back at us to hurry up. We stripped down and jumped in. Both of the boys were teasing us about our near erections. We laughed with them and played for a couple of hours in the cool water. We found a grassy area where we laid on our towels to dry in the sun. After we'd been toasting for a bit Andy asked Mike for the sun lotion because he felt that Gary was going to get a sun burn without it. Gary was laying on his back when Andy started to rub the lotion on him. It didn't take too much for Gary to have a full blown erection that was dancing away about an inch off his belly. It continued to twitch and dance as Andy put the lotion on each of Gary's legs. I watched out of the corner of my eye -- trying not to be obvious. It was obvious that both boys were enjoying this. I could hear Gary almost purring as Andy rubbed over his body. When he finished Gary wanted a turn to do the same for Andy. Both boys were extremely aroused as they basked in the warm sun. Fortunately I was on my stomach so the boys couldn't see that I was just as hard as both of them. When I got hungry I told Mike that we should take our food and give the boys some space. We told them that we were going to eat our lunch by another small lake and told them they were welcome to join us if they wished or stay here. I had no doubt they would both want to stay where they were. We could see them from where we were. They had their sandwiches and fed each other chips and chunks of fruit as they sat very close to each other. Mike said, "If anything more than touching each other happens between those two, you realize we will never hear the end of it." "Yeah... but aren't they so cute together? I don't remember anything that romantic when I was that age. My first time wasn't exactly a good experience for me. I felt guilty for weeks after." "My first time wasn't so hot either." "Oh God Mike, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to bring up bad memories." "No... you didn't really. I just wish my first time could have been like that. And I'm really glad that my first time with you was like that. You were so kind and gentle and understanding... You still are. I couldn't ask for a better lover." "You inspire me to be a better lover." We began our own session of touching and caressing and kissing. We were so wrapped up in our own sensations that we didn't hear the boys approach. I don't know how long they stood there watching us, but I was a little embarrassed when we discovered their presence. Gary said, "That was pretty hot! Sorry to interrupt you guys, but we're gonna go back in the water if that's ok." "Yeah... sure... we'll join you in just a couple of minutes." Mike replied. "Take all the time you need." Andy said as both boys giggled and wandered back to the larger lake. We allowed time for our bodies to calm down before we joined the boys in the water. They were in the middle of some just created grab ass game and soon we were part it. The boys were going out of their way to grab each of us under the water. It was pretty funny as everyone left the water completely hard. We dried off and started back to our campsite. Going down the mountain is usually always easier than the climb up, but not when you're painfully erect. I think we all walked a bit gingerly as we ambled down the slope. Once back at the tent we all decided that we'd take a quick dip and clean up for the evening. We all bathed in the lake with our partners help. It was relaxing and stimulating. Thank God for the cold river water than fed our swimming hole. It helped to keep us all under control. I started the campfire and started some potatoes cooking. I then added steaks and canned green beans. Mike cut up more fresh fruit while dinner cooked. We were all stuffed as we all pitched in to clean up. That night we all sat around our campfire and told ghost and horror stories. I don't think anyone was actually scared, butt he occasional pop of the fire or the crack of a branch or the sounds of some nocturnal animal all helped to create an eerie mood. When the stories were finished and everyone was yawning, we turned in for the night. Gary noticed tonight that Mike and my sleeping bags were joined to make one large sleeping bag. He smiled and said, "Can we do that too?" "Do what?" Mike asked. "Put out bags together like you guys did. That would be cool." "Andy might not like that. Maybe he'd like to sleep in his own bag." I said. "Um.. actually I'd like to try that too if you would Gary." "Guys... I'm not sure it's a good idea." I said. "Why?" Gary asked. "We aren't planning to do anything. Andy and I talked about it and we decided that we aren't really ready for actual sex yet. I mean we want to and all, but well... we aren't gonna do anything yet." "Andy, how do you feel about that?" I asked. "I agree with Gary. I want to do stuff with him, but well... I'm not totally ready yet. I swear we won't do anything if we can put our bags together. Besides if we were gonna do something we would have done it at the lakes while you guys were too busy to keep an eye on us." "Ok... then unzip your bags completely and put one on top of the other and zip them up. I trust you both." I said. With that the bags were hooked together faster than you could say 'go to it'. Both boys climbed in with their shorts on. That really surprised me since they'd been naked all day together. I should have waited a moment because within seconds both boys flung their shorts into the corner of the tent. As everyone settled down Andy asked, "Would anyone be upset if I kissed Gary?" "Gary would you be upset if Andy kissed you?" I asked. "No way. That would be so cool! I want to kiss Andy too!" "I guess no one would be upset, but don't keep us up all night while you slobber all over each other's faces. And no kissing lower than the neck got that guys?" "You're ruining all the fun Adam." Gary said as he laughed. Their first kiss was very loud smacking noises done purposely to be loud and annoying. I kissed Mike the same way. The boys were giggling. Their second kiss was much quieter... at least now there was only soft moaning coming from their side of the tent. It didn't last too long and didn't go further as both boys wished us 'sweet dreams'. I honestly expected to awake to the sounds of some sexual activity coming from their sleeping bag, but there wasn't any. I didn't know at the time if they were just very quiet about it or if I just slept more soundly than usual. I figured I'd hear one way or the other in the morning, but when everyone was up and eating, nothing was said. I just knew that Gary wouldn't be able to keep that a secret so I guess the guys had decided to wait. The other three wanted to fish again so we got out the poles and bait and headed down stream a ways. Everyone spread out a bit as the fishing started. No one got any quick nibbles so it wasn't as much fun as it was the first day. Eventually Andy got a bite and reeled in a nice trout. He bated his hook and cast off again. Gary eased his way over to me and said, "My dick hurts." "Did you get sunburned there?" "No... but it's been so hard for too long. I just need to get off soon. I get too excited being around Andy. I thought I was gonna blow when he rubbed lotion on me yesterday. I was so close, but I didn't just want to shoot in front of him." "Why not?" "I don't know. I guess I wanted him to think that I could control myself or something. I was so damn close though. I think I need some time alone. Maybe you could take everyone else for a hike or something so I could take care of it... you know?" "I suspect Andy is in the same condition." "I don't know we didn't talk about it. But yeah... probably." "Maybe you two should jack off together." "You'd let me do that? I mean I know you are supposed to be watching me and stuff. I didn't want to do anything that might make you mad, but if Andy wants to you'd let us?" "Well, I don't have a problem with it. You're each gonna jack off anyway so why not do it with each other. It's a big step to do that in front of another person. If you're both ready for that step then I think it's fine." "You are too cool, man. I'm gonna ask Andy if he wants to. Here, hold my pole for me. I'll be back in a sec." And with that he trotted down to where Andy was fishing. I couldn't hear their conversation, but I could tell that Gary was excited. Both boys came back to where I was still trying to catch my first fish of the trip. Gary said as he approached, "Andy doesn't believe you said we could do that if we both want." "Andy, is jacking off together something you're interested in doing with Gary?" "Yeah... I never did that in front of someone else before. I want to, but I'm a little nervous about it." "If you both want to then I don't have a problem with it. I think you should both start slow... don't rush to get off. Maybe start by getting naked and comfortable on the sleeping bag. Take your time -- talk with each other about it. I don't have a problem if you kiss each other. I know you both got a little worked up yesterday with touching each other. Sometimes just having your legs touching is very exciting while you each take care of your erections. If you're at all uncomfortable about it or have any doubt about doing it, then you shouldn't." "Want to try it Andy?" "Yeah..." I put my arm over Andy's shoulder and said to him quietly, "You don't have to do this just because Gary wants to. I don't get the feeling that you really want to do this with him." "No Adam, I really do... It's just that I think I'll blow as soon as I see him without his clothes on. I was so close last night and again this morning. I thought I was gonna cum when I woke up and Gary's arm was around me. I mean I could feel his dick pressing against my butt and it was the best feeling ever. I just don't wanna look like some wuss that can't control his dick." "You won't look that way to Gary I'm sure. You can tell he's as excited as you are can't you? If the first time you cum too quick, you can always do it again. I remember being your age and recovery time is quick. You can easily shoot twice maybe even more." "Thanks Adam... it's really cool to have you to talk to about this stuff. I can't believe I just told you what I did, but you're so cool." "Go have some fun. We won't bother you guys. Lunch is still about two hours away so that should give you both plenty of time to play." The boys left for the tent. They were walking briskly... probably wanting to run and not look too eager. I took their fishing poles and wandered closer to Mike. He said, "I can just about imagine what that last conversation was about. Gary mentioned to me this morning that he was in need of some relief. I gather you told them to go play with themselves..." "Pretty much. I think each of them is likely to explode if they don't get rid of some of that tension that has been building up the last two days. I think it will be harmless fun for both of them. Do you think I did the wrong thing?" "No, not at all. We both know they were going to do something sooner or later. I'm glad that they are talking to you about it first. I think it's less likely for them to go too far or hurt each other in the process. I think you did the right thing. I can't wait to see their faces when they get back." "I told them they had a couple of hours before lunch so I suspect they will be busy for a while and then likely take a nap after expending all of that energy. They're both good kids really. I'm really surprised that Andy asked if he could kiss Gary last night. I'm really surprised that didn't go further." "That surprised me too, but Gary seems to have taken your talk to heart. He listens to you. He seems to have gotten the message that there isn't any rush and that slow is better for him and his partner. You didn't hear him telling Andy about all the things you told him. He damn near had that sex talk memorized. He was giving Andy the complete talk when we shopped. I couple of times I was damn near doubled over trying to keep from laughing it was so cute." "That is good. I'm glad that he's listening. At his age that doesn't happen all that often. Most boys his age want to do the exact opposite of what they're told. He really is a good boy. You've got a great little brother there, Mike" "Thanks! I wish I could take some credit for that." "You can. He's just like you. Maybe you didn't influence him during his early years, but you certainly have since you met him." "I think you're the bigger influence on him. I think that is good. You've been a good influence on me. I'm a better person for having known you." "What do you say to putting the fishing poles away and maybe taking this quiet time to have some fun of our own?" "I think that's the best idea you've had all day. I'll race you to the Jeep!" and that brings me to the end of this part of the story... I hope you enjoyed this offering. If you've made it to the end of this part of the story, please share your thoughts with me. I sincerely appreciate your comments, thoughts, and criticisms. You can contact me at: dselliot28@yahoo.com. If this is the first story of mine that you've read, I encourage you to give some of the others a read. I'm listed in the Author's section at Nifty. Please scroll down to the 'e' category to find my name -- ds elliot. When you click on my name you will get a complete list of the stories I've posted at Nifty. Thanks for reading my work! Thanks for reading my submissions! Peace and Love. ds elliot