Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:51:52 -0700 (PDT) From: rimpigfl Subject: MOST LIKELY TO SUCCEED 4 This is a fictional story. Perhaps somewhere, sometime it actually happened. But I have no idea that it did. The story is about two young males who love each other. If that offends you, then I feel really, really sorry for you. And I guess that fact that the two males are related will just drive you 'round the bend'. What a shame! For the rest of you, sit back and enjoy. For those who know my writings, you know what to expect from me on this subject. For those of you who've never read me before (write me and I'll give you a listing of all my stories) you have no idea what to expect. That's the most fun of all! MOST LIKELY TO SUCCEED Part 4 by RimPig (c) 2002 A few days later, it was Saturday morning, Brian and I heard our Dad knock on our bedroom door. It was very early. The sun was just coming up. We answered and Dad came into the room. We didn't bother to get out of bed because we knew he wouldn't mind seeing us in bed together. He sat down on the edge of the bed and smiled at us. "I hope you do something so that your mother won't realize that only one bed is getting slept in?" he asked. "Don't worry, Dad." Brian said with a grin. "We alternate beds each night so that they both look slept in." "That good. I just don't want you mother to start asking questions which might embarrass the both of you." he said. "But I want you two to get up and get dressed. I want to take you somewhere and we're going to be gone all day." "Where are we going?" I asked. "That's a surprise. Don't ask any questions now. Just get dressed. I've got some coffee brewed but we'll have breakfast on the road. Ok?" he asked, looking at both of us. "Ok." Brian said. "But we have to take a shower first." "Well...take a shower but not one of the usual ones you two take, hmm?" he said with a wink of his eye. Brian and I both blushed. "Ok, Dad! Just a shower!" Brian moaned. "Good. I'll wait for you downstairs." he said, getting up off the bed and leaving the room. "What do you suppose this is all about?" Brian asked. "I don't know. I guess we just should go along with it." I answered. I wasn't exactly telling the truth. I didn't know where we were going, but I had my suspicions. But I decided to keep them to myself for the time being. Brian and I took a shower together, just like we had come to do every morning, though without as much horsing around as usual. But I just couldn't look at Brian's morning hardon or smell his sweaty scent without getting my hands and mouth on him and he seemed to have the same problem. So the shower did include two quick blowjobs along with some licking of some very sensitive areas of each other's bodies. We finally made it to the kitchen where Dad stood there grinning at the both of us. "Well...I hope you two got that out of your systems for a while? We've got kind of a long ride ahead of us." he said. Knowing that we were 'busted', Brian and I grinned at each other and at Dad. He gave us each a cup of coffee in a travel cup and we headed for the garage. We expected to take Dad's car. Instead, he had us get in his custom conversion travel van which he and Mom used for vacations sometimes. He told us he didn't mind if no one rode 'shot-gun' up front with him, so Brian and I sat on the bench seat behind him. Because the van not only had heavily tinted windows but blinds as well for complete privacy, we were able to ride with me laying my head on Brian's chest and his arm around me holding me. I could see Dad looking back at us in the rear view mirror every so often and smiling to himself. I think he probably saw us kissing a few times as well. We got on the interstate and soon were out of the city. After about an hour, Dad took one of the exits and we were then traveling on single-lane roads through what appeared to be farming country. We stopped at a restaurant in a small town for breakfast and then continued on our way, Dad still not saying where we were going. But Brian and I were definitely enjoying ourselves. It was heaven just to be close to one another and driving through such beautiful country. In between the rolling hills and the farms were deeply wooded areas that were alive with foliage. Around lunchtime, we finally came to a small town. Dad stopped at a restaurant and we had lunch. I noticed that Dad kept looking around at some of the people who were coming and going from the restaurant, almost like he was looking for someone that he knew. My suspicions about what this place was were confirmed after lunch when Dad drove a little ways out of town and pulled the van into the gravel parking lot of a small, run-down wooden church. The church had at one time been white but needed a coat of paint badly. We got out of the van, and Dad stood looking at the church for a long time without saying anything. I was the one who finally brought him out of his reverie. "This was you're father's church, wasn't it, Dad?" I asked quietly. "Yes, Chris, it was." he said without looking at me. "This is where David is buried, isn't it?" I asked, though it really wasn't a question. I had figured all along that this is where he was bringing us. "Yes, Chris." Dad replied, finally turning to me. He pointed up to a grassy knoll. "He's buried right up there on the top of that hill." he said. We made our way into the churchyard and up the hill. At the very top, under the shade of an old oak tree, we found the grave. The headstone was a large pieces of dark red granite which looked like it was just carved and placed there recently. On the stone was carved the name "David Conroy" and below that the words "Beloved Brother" along with the dates of birth and death. Across the bottom of the large block of granite was carved "And Jonathan loved David more than his own soul. 1Samuel 20:17". We stood there a long time, not saying a word. Then finally my Dad started speaking. But he wasn't speaking to us. His eyes were on the grave and he was speaking to his dead brother/lover. "David, these are my sons. This is Brian and Chris. I told you about them. What wonderful boys they are and how much they love each other. Just like us, David." Dad said quietly and then he got down on his knees next to the grave. "I still love you, David. I always will. I've never forgotten what you told me." and then Dad started to softly weep. Brian and I looked at each other and both went to our knees beside our Dad, both of us putting our arms around him and holding him while he cried. I looked over at Brian. When he looked over at me, I could see there were tears in his eyes as there were in mine. We both wished we could have known David. We both wished that he and Dad would have had more time together. And I think we both realized again how lucky we were to have each other. We knelt there holding Dad for a long time. None of us said a word. Brian and I just waited for Dad to calm down. After a while, he stopped crying and seemed to finally notice that we were both holding him. He leaned over and kissed Brian's cheek and then turned and kissed mine. We rose to our feet and helped Dad to his. We stood a while longer, looking down at the granite marker. "This is new, isn't it Dad?" I asked. "Yes, Chris, it is. There was a concrete one that someone, probably my father, had placed here years ago. It only had David's name and his dates on it. I didn't know. I had never been back here until just after you got out of the hospital, Brian. I took off from work one day without saying anything to your mother and I came down here to finally see if there was a grave. I was always afraid that my father had just let the county bury David in an unmarked, pauper's grave. But I guess it wouldn't have been very politic for him to let his son be buried that way - especially in the eyes of his congregation. And trust me, what other people thought was all he ever cared about! Not what was right or wrong!" Dad began to show his deep anger and then stopped and seemed to pull himself together. "Anyway, I came up here and I found the miserable little headstone that had been put on his grave and I when I left the graveyard that afternoon, I went immediately to a stonemason and had this new one made. It was just a couple of days ago that the stonemason called me and told me it was finished and would be installed. That's why I wanted to come up here today, to see it." Dad said. "Thank you for bringing us with you." Brian said. "To be honest, at first, I really didn't plan to have you come with me. I was going to come up here alone. Then I began to think about it. After our little talk the other day, Chris, I felt I wanted to share this with you guys. And I realized, I didn't want to come up here again alone. That first time, I literally lay on David's grave and cried for over an hour. I know that I'm still not over his death. I may never be. I still love him and I always will. Don't get me wrong. I do love your mother. She's a wonderful woman, kind and caring. And she did give me both of you. But it just isn't the same. I'm sure that you two understand that. You may be the only one's who would." Dad said, looking into both Brian and my eyes. "Yes, Dad. We do understand." I said, putting my arms around him and hugging him. We left the graveyard and started the drive home. I noticed how much closer and tighter Brian held me on the trip home. I understood what he was feeling because I know I clung closer to him than I had. We had already come too close to being lost to each other forever, we could only imagine what Dad had to go through all these years. We finally arrived home late that day. We found a note from Mom saying she was at the hospital. We piled back into the van and sped the two miles to there. It was strange, we'd come here so often to be with Brian, we couldn't imagine what was going on with Mom. We went to information and they directed us to Mom's room. Our family doctor was with her along with another doctor who we didn't know. He turned out to be an oncologist. The doctors told us what they had told Mom. She had pancreatic cancer. During the time that Brian had been hospitalized, I knew that Mom had been going to the doctor for tests. She had told both me and my father that the tests were routine and had to do with menopause. She had not told either one of us how serious this was or what the doctor's had suspected. What we found out was that she had collapsed at work while we had been visiting our uncle's grave and the ambulance had brought her here. The doctors were very honest with us. There was nothing that they could do. They had already told Mom that her survival time was six months to a year. That had been, unbeknownst to us, the day before Brian's accident which meant that she'd already known about it for four months. With the collapse today, the doctors were down grading her chances of survival to six months or less. The news hit us like a ton of bricks. It hit my Dad worst of all. He had just gotten back from the grave of the only other person he had ever loved only to find that he was about to lose the other. He held up ok while we were talking to the doctors. But the doctors suggested that we go home and let Mom get some rest. We could come back tomorrow. They promised she would only have to be in the hospital for a few days and then we could bring her home. We went back down to the parking lot and it was there that Dad lost it. He collapsed against the side of the van crying and all Brian and I could do was hold him. Finally, Brian, who could drive, took Dad's keys. We put him in the passenger seat and took him home. Brian had to almost carry Dad into the house. We put him in bed and then Brian called our family doctor. He called in a prescription for some sedatives so that Dad could get some rest. Brian went and picked them up and I stayed with Dad while he did. I offered to make Dad something to eat but he said that he wasn't hungry. I wasn't either. When Brian got home, we gave Dad the sedative and got him comfortable for the night. The sedative was an effective one. He was asleep before we even got the light off in his and Mom's bedroom. I asked Brian if he wanted anything to eat and he also declined. We didn't know what to do with ourselves, so we just naturally gravitated to our own room. We got undressed and got into bed together. Brian held me in his arms and we talked. We began to reminisce about growing up. About all the good times we'd had as a family. We talked about the special times each of us had with Mom and we cried together. As we lay there in each others arms, we began slowly to make love to each other. There was a desperation about it, but it wasn't out of horniness. It was like we were seeking escape and comfort in each other's bodies and trying desperately to give each other the comfort that we sought. As Brian entered me, I could see that he still had tears in his eyes and I reached up and pulled him down on top of me as I wrapped my legs around his waist. I took his face in my hands and began to kiss him. Gently at first, just my lips against his. Like that first kiss he'd given me that night in the hospital when he'd just come out of the coma. Gradually the kiss deepened until we were passionately almost seeming to want to devour each other. Brian's lovemaking was raw and almost animalistic but it matched my mood exactly. He pounded me hard with his cock and I rose to meet each thrust. For the first time, there was some pain in the way that he fucked me, but I welcomed the pain. I wanted it to hurt. I wanted to feel anything other than the sorrow I was feeling which threatened to engulf me. Brian, on the other hand, appeared to feel nothing but anger and took that anger out on my body. I was grateful that I could do that for him - give him some way to release the anger he was feeling. Our climax came together, each of us lost in our own pain but deeply tied together in our feelings. I really needed Brian and I know how much he needed me. It was if we were somehow solidifying our bond to each other so that, in the coming bad days, we would always have each other to fall back on. Brian collapsed on top of me and, after a few moments, I could feel his tears wetting my shoulder and his body jerking with his sobs. I wrapped my arms around him and let him cry himself out. Soon I felt his body relax and realized that he had fallen asleep on top of me, his face buried in my shoulder. I turned my head and kissed his hair and lay there holding him. I soon fell asleep myself. I awoke the next morning, still feeling Brian's weight on top of me. He hadn't stirred all night. We were still in the position that we fell asleep in. His cock, which now was stiff as usual in the morning, was still buried inside me. I turned my head, and began to gently lick Brian's neck. He woke slowly, he hips making small stabs in and out of my ass. He turned his head and looked at me. "Did I sleep on top of you all night long?" he asked. "I guess you did. I woke up to find you exactly like you were when I went to sleep." I answered. "I'm sorry. Let me get up. You must feel crushed." he said, making an effort to rise. I grabbed him and held him down against my body. "Oh, no you don't! I don't mind the feeling of you on top of me at all! And you've started something here and I expect you to finish what you started!" I grinned at him while I clamped hard on his cock with the muscles inside my butt. He groaned at the feeling and smiled down at me. "Ok, I'm sorry. Yes, I shouldn't start things unless I finish them, should I?" he asked. "No! I might get the feeling that you don't love me anymore!" I joked with him. But Brian didn't take it that way. He wasn't in a joking mood that morning. Instead, he looked first shocked - then hurt. "How can you think that! I love you more now than I ever have before! And I promise I'll love you even more tomorrow!" he vowed. I reached up and stroked his hair. "Shh! Brian. I'm joking! I know you love me. I don't even need that large part of your body in mine to prove it, either. But don't get any ideas - I do love it where it is! I love you, too! I always have and I always will. Now shut up and fuck me, ok?" I asked, gently smiling at him as I said it. "Ok. That's more like it!" he said, smiling back. Brian slowly made love to me, seeming to want to draw every bit of pleasure out of my body. I think we both wanted to spend as much time lost in each other before we had to go back to facing the reality of what was going on in our family. As I lay there, floating on the love and tender emotions that Brian caused in me, I thought to myself that as wrong as people might think our relationship was, if I had to go through the pain of losing my mother, at least I had Brian to not only help me deal with the pain, but understand completely what I was going through. After making love we took a shower together. No matter what, we did this every day. We both found such pleasure in running out hands over each other's bodies under the warm spray of water. This day, however, we didn't make love in the shower as well. We only kissed and held each other some more to give us the strength to deal with what awaited us outside the door to our room. We went downstairs and found Dad. He seemed still half-drugged from the sedative. He hadn't even managed to get coffee started. Brian went and made coffee, while I sat down at the kitchen table with him. I pulled my chair up close to him and leaned my head against his shoulder and took one of his hands in mine. He put his arm around me and I moved my head to his chest. He leaned down and kissed the top of my head. We sat there in silence for a while, just holding on to one another. David came over and brought steaming mugs of coffee for each of us. He smiled at me and sat down on the other side of Dad and gently kissed him on the cheek. Dad looked over at Brian and I could see tears begin to fall from his eyes. "I've never told you this, Brian, but you have no idea how much you look like David. There have been times I've thought for a moment when I'd see you unexpectedly that you were David, come back to me." he said. "Is that why you've looked at me so strangely at times, Dad? I noticed that sometimes when I was younger. It bothered me because I thought you were somehow disappointed in me." Brian admitted. "Oh, God! Son! I had not idea! I'm so sorry! No, I wasn't disappointed at all! I've never been disappointed in you about anything! Please, you have to believe that. It was just you reminded me so much of him." Dad said earnestly. "It's ok, Dad. Since you told us about David, I kind of figured out for myself what was going on. I thought that I might look something like him since I didn't look much like Mom at all. Chris looks a lot more like Mom than I do." he said. I was surprised. No one, especially Brian, had ever told me that before. "Brian, you don't look 'something like' David. You look exactly like David. Or you look like he would have if he'd ever lived to be your age." Dad said. "Does that bother you, Dad?" Brian asked. "No, I've gotten used to it. In many ways, I considered myself lucky. I don't have any problems remembering what he looked like. But don't get me wrong. I don't look at you and see him. I know you are Brian and I love you very much for who you are. You have grown into a very special kind of man, son. I am very proud of you." Dad said, reaching out and squeezing Brian's shoulder. "And I'm proud of you as well." Dad said, kissing the top of my head again. We sat there for a while, drinking coffee and talking about mundane things. I guess that none of us wanted to bring up the one topic we knew we had to talk about and couldn't bring ourselves to. Finally, it was Dad who broke the topic. "I talked with your mother's oncologist again this morning. She still not doing well. While he had told us six months yesterday, he admitted to me that was just to keep your mother's spirits up. He really gives her less than a month. He has great doubt as to whether or not we will be able to bring her home at all." he said quietly. Brian and I sat there stunned. The news yesterday had been bad enough. But now, we were talking about weeks - not months! The whole reality of the situation came crashing down on me and I began to cry. Brian quickly got up and came around the table and pulled me up out of my chair and took me in his arms. He held me and kissed me while quietly talking to me, helping me to gain control over myself. Neither of us thought about it, but this was the first time that Dad had ever seen us be really intimate with each other, except for yesterday in the car. When I had finally calmed down, I sat back down at the table and Brian pulled a chair up next to mine, keeping his arm around me for emotional support. I noticed that Dad looked at us with a soft, wistfulness in his eyes. I knew what he was thinking. I know he was remembering being in David's arms. I felt my feelings rise up again, but strongly pushed them down. That wouldn't help Dad at all, to see me break down again. Instead, I reached out and took his hand in mine again. He smiled at me. The next three weeks were a nightmare. We spent most of our time at the hospital. The oncologist was right. We were never able to bring Mom home from the hospital again. She died quietly one evening while we were all there around her, Dad holding one of her hands and Brian the other. While I couldn't know for sure, I think that Mom did know about me and Brian. One of the last things she said to us was, "I know you'll love and take care of each other always. I want you to take care of your Dad, too.". We both promised her that we would. Only a few hours later, she died. Brian and I took Dad home. We again gave him a sedative and put him to bed. Then we went to our own bed and held each other and cried until we fell asleep in each other's arms. The next morning, the three of us, Brian, Dad and I again met in the kitchen over coffee. We planned out the funeral for Mom and then Dad went to the funeral home to make the arrangements. The funeral was held a few days later. Many people from Mom's office and Dad's work came. But there were no relatives. Dad's family was all gone and Mom's family was as well. Brian and I stayed mostly in the background. These were very few people that Brian and I knew. Some of the kids that I went to school with came with their parents as did some of the parent's of some of Brian's old team members. After the funeral, I helped Dad pack up Mom's things and send them to a shelter for battered women. We had a rough time going through all the things she'd kept over the years: report cards, drawings and cards that Brian and I gave her, both of our first 'booties'. All the things that mother's keep and cherish. Dad put them all in a box and gave them to me. "You put them in your and Brian's room. They're yours now. They were precious to your mom, I hope they will be to you, too." he said. "Thanks, Dad. Yes, we'll keep them. Is there anything you'd like to keep?" I asked. "I have all of your mother's jewelry and all of our pictures from our life together. That will be enough. And, of course, there's this house. It will always remind me of her." he said, looking around their bedroom. "Dad, are you going to be ok?" I asked. "Yes, Chris, I will. I've still got you boys. Of course, I know you'll eventually move away for college, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it." he said. "Dad, Brian and I were talking about that last night. We're not going anywhere. Why should we? We don't have to hide our relationship with you and we both can go to college locally. We want to be together and we can do that here easier than anyplace else. And besides, we don't want to leave you. Whether you admit it or not, you need us - now more than ever. So, sorry Dad. There will be no 'empty nest syndrome' around here. You're just going to have to put up with us on a permanent basis." I smiled. "Chris, are you and Brian sure about this? I don't want you two to not have a life because of me!" he said. "What are you talking about? We have a great life here. And you're a part of it. You're as much our friend as our father. And besides, it's a lot cheaper living here!" I grinned. "Ok, I'll admit it. I'm not the least interested in being alone. I would miss you both terribly. I'm not the least bit unhappy to have you both here as long as you want to stay." he admitted. "Then that's settled. Nobody's going anywhere. We'll be the Three Musketeers, one for all and all for one!" I reached over and gave him a kiss on the cheek. Brian walked into the room at this point. He looked at the two of us smiling. "I take it you told Dad what we decided?" he asked me. "Yes, I just told Dad we're going to be like the Three Musketeers." I smiled at Brian. "Dad, we really mean it. We don't see any reason to leave. You need us. And we need you. You're the only one who knows about us. And you're love and acceptance means more to us than anything. I can't imagine a better life than having you and Chris close to me all the time. I guess what I went through, almost losing both of you and now losing Mom, it's changed the way I look at things." he said. "I understand, son. But I thought you really wanted to go to Yale?" Dad asked. "Dad, I wanted to go anywhere that was a far away from Chris as I could get." Brian explained to Dad as he had to me. "Why? You love him!" Dad face filled with shock as he looked from Brian to me and back. "That's why I wanted to be as far from him as I could be. I didn't have the courage to tell him how I felt. I never thought he could ever feel the same way. And even if he did, I had no idea that you would accept it. I was running away, Dad. Now there's nothing to run away from. Everything I want most in the world is here. Right in this house." Brian said, reaching over and putting his arms around me. "Well, I'm so glad you two finally were able to break through your fear of your feelings for each other. I know it was painful for both of you. But you have no idea how painful it was to watch it. So many times I wanted to just sit you both down and tell you that you loved each other and to quit being afraid of it. But I still think that you finding out yourselves was the most important thing for both of you. I think you treasure your love for each other all the more because of how hard it was for you. So, what do you think? Did I do the right thing by letting go and not interfering?" he asked. Brian and I looked at each other for a moment and then smiled. Together we reached over and hugged Dad. That seemed to be answer enough for him. For the next month or so, life was really strange. We'd never been without Mom and life seemed to be missing something. Oh, life went on. I took over making dinner for us because I was the only one that was interested enough to get Mom to teach me to cook when I was younger. Brian was always to busy playing football. We all shared the housekeeping and laundry. Gradually, life fell into a new routine and the emptiness got less. Dad still was depressed but we saw him fighting it. Brian and I spent more time with him because we were very aware of how much he needed us. But we had a talk one night and decided that we should not show any affection to each other around Dad because we felt it would remind him that Mom was gone. After a few weeks of this however, Dad spoke to us at the dinner table one night. "I have something I want to say and I don't want either of you to interrupt until I say it." he said looking at Brian and I. We both nodded our heads. "I have noticed that something is missing around this house. Something that used to bring me great joy and happiness. Now I want you both to understand, it is hard enough for me to deal with your mother's being gone without losing everything. And I think you two know what I'm talking about. The greatest joy in my life was watching the two of you when you expressed your love and affection for each other. I know that you think this would remind me that I'm alone now. But the fact is, quite the opposite is true. By taking that away from me, you've made me feel even more alone. I know you were only doing what you felt would help, but believe me, it doesn't work that way. So, I want you two to go back to how you were before. This is your home, too. You have a right to be comfortable to express your love for each other here. God knows, there's precious few other places you can do that. Do you both understand?" he asked, looking at us. We both hung our heads. We had no idea that Dad felt this way. Brian reached down, took my hand in his and brought both our hands, joined together, to the top of the table. He raised my hand to his lips and kissed the ring that Dad had given us. Then he looked at Dad. "We're sorry, Dad. We were only trying to help. You know that we love you. We just didn't want to hurt you." Brian spoke for both of us. "I know, son. But next time, when you are making decisions about my feelings, you might ask me first how I feel. Ok?" Dad said, smiling. "Ok." I answered. "Ok, that's the first bit of business." Dad said, smiling back. "Now, for the second. I've decided that I have every right to do what I told you I wanted to do. I'm going to give you both a honeymoon, of sorts. I picked up three airline tickets today. We leave in a month for three weeks in London." he grinned. Brian and I were both astounded. And overjoyed. The idea of traveling and seeing this very romantic and historical place was overwhelming! We both excitedly started talking at once and Dad had to hold his hands up to bring some order to things. "I know you're both excited. I am too. I'd hoped to make this trip with your mother as a second honeymoon because we'd gone there on our first one and we always wanted to go back. But I think she would have been very happy for us to go anyway. She loved both of you. And I think I can now tell you what she made me promise I wouldn't. Before she died, she asked me outright about the relationship between the two of you. I knew she already knew, mothers seem to know those kind of things and, as I told you before, it was impossible to be around the two of you and not realize that something was going on. It was hard for her at first to accept it, but she finally came to the realization that nothing was going to change things. She loved you both so much, she couldn't help but accept that you loved each other." Dad told us."She didn't want you to know she knew because it wasn't something she felt comfortable talking about." "Oh, Dad. That's wonderful. We kind of figured that she knew from something she said to us before she died when we were alone with her." I told Dad what she had said and he agreed with me that this was her way of giving us her blessing. Over the next month, we got passports and I must have packed and re-packed a dozen times. Brian reminded me that we were only going for three weeks - we weren't moving to London. I finally calmed down enough to figure out that I needed about half what I had packed. Of course, I didn't come to this realization until the night before we left. And Brian and I did what Dad asked. We were no longer afraid to show how we felt about each other in front of him again. I don't think even of us realized how hard it had been to hide our love for each other until after we stopped. We promised ourselves we would never do that again. The End of Part 4. And so the boys and their Dad set off for their adventure in London. Brian and Chris were going to have the honeymoon that their father wanted them to have. Watch for Chapter 5 to see how this all turns out. If you liked the story, write to me at rimpigfl@yahoo.com. PLEASE: Remember to tell me the name of the story! I have a lot of stories on NIFTY in a lot of different sections, so it's really hard for me to know which of them you're writing about. Flames will be ignored as will story suggestions. By the time you read this, the whole story will have already been written. If you have story ideas, why don't you take the plunge and try writing yourself. If you need help, I'll be glad to assist. Write me about it. If you did like my story, please consider making a donation to NIFTY to keep this site free and accessible. Thank you. RimPig