Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:58:35 +0000 (UTC) From: J. Brahms Subject: Rob's Summer Adventures, Part 13 Rob's Summer Adventures, Part 13 Rob's dad had come to have very warm feelings towards Jay as the summer went on. A couple of weeks after Rob left for college, Dad gave Jay a call at work and asked if he'd like to meet for dinner sometime. Jay was delighted. He felt no physical attraction towards Dad, nor did Dad towards Jay, but both wanted to get to know each other better, and to discuss their mutual interest - Rob. A date was set, with Jay suggesting the gay restaurant, curious to see how Dad reacted. Jay suspected that Dad swung both ways, as it were, but had no proof, and Rob had never said anything. Dad said he'd heard of it, knew it was good, but had never been, so was glad of the opportunity. He was pretty sure it was gay, but didn't mind. In fact, it would be nice to know where some of the "single gentlemen" hung out in town. Jay was waiting in the foyer when Dad arrived. Jay ate there often enough that he knew most of the staff and the maître d' was pleased to see him. Introductions were made, then they were shown to a discrete table. Well, all tables there were discrete! Jay was pleased to see that they had the same waiter as had served him that night with Rob. The young man slightly raised an eyebrow at Jay when he noticed a different dinner companion, and an older one at that. Jay did not respond, but decided that this boy was to be spanked, and as a soon as possible. Dinner ordered, Dad got to what he wanted to say. "I want to thank you for all you did for Rob this summer. When he went to college he was showing a new maturity that will serve him well in the new environment." "Thank you for sharing him with me! I assure you, my time with him was a pleasure. He's a fine young man." "I'm glad you think so. You had time to learn a lot about him, especially with weekends away." "Oh, I did! I certainly learned one thing he does not like - clothes!" The both laughed at that and Dad said it was very true. Given that Rob had always been away for school, it wasn't clear when he gave up pajamas or generally started enjoying a naked lifestyle, but it certainly had been going on for at least five or six years now. "I don't pry into Rob's life, so didn't ask him much about your times together. He always was positive about his visits, though." Dad's guess - correct - was that Jay and Rob spent some time together naked. Maybe even shared a bed. He wouldn't press, but hoped that Jay would tell him some of what had gone on. If they had been naked and sleeping together, Dad saw this only as good. Now having plenty of time to converse, and without the schedules of youngsters or work, the two spent time sharing their backgrounds. Since nudity had been mentioned, Jay told of how he had grown up in what was, essentially, a nudist household. His parents were not active nudists in the sense of going to resorts, but were relaxed about clothes at home and usually were naked. They just felt more comfortable that way. Once the kids were out of diapers Jay, his brother and sister, were left to dress or not as they wished. They got used to nudity and just stayed that way. Puberty had not proved an issue for the three of them. Jay and his brother did have the usual brotherly j/o, but quickly it was clear that his brother was hetero and Jay knew he was only interested in boys. Weekends at the country house always were naked, year-round. They had friends who joined sometimes; only a couple had ever been uncomfortable without clothes and did not return. Others, once they were naked, loved it. Dad said he envied that freedom. He related that around twelve or so he'd given up pajamas. Like Rob, he was an only child. Somehow his parents never had others. He said that he'd always been bisexual, though perhaps leaning a bit more towards guys. However, he had fallen in love with a woman, Rob's mother. He was widowed when Rob was small. After she died he had a hard time starting to date again, but recently he had started seeing men and women when he had time, and now had a couple of "regulars" he enjoyed. Left alone with Rob he was uncertain about being a single parent so had found private schools for Rob as soon as Rob was school age. Rob always did well and it seemed he got a nice blend of adult parental figures and had a good group of peer friends, most of all Billy. The downside was that they didn't spend enough time together, of course. Now Billy was the topic. They both agreed that Billy was a good kid, but perhaps needed more maturing than Rob. College likely would do this. The focus on Billy gave Jay the opportunity to slowly direct the conversation towards discipline. He wanted to let Dad know that he had spanked Rob, and why, but felt that just blurting it out was not the way to go. Yet, he also was sure that once Dad knew the situation there would be no issues. Dad actually opened the door for it. "I spanked Rob a few times when he was little, but after he was away so much it didn't feel quite right. Plus he so rarely misbehaved! Not that he's perfect, but school certainly did teach him proper manners and respect. Billy, though, sometimes I've thought a good spanking would benefit him immensely!" They both laughed. Jay now took advantage and explained his philosophy on spanking and some of his own history. Dad was finding this all quite interesting, though not initially catching on where it was going. Jay told about his college mentor and how beneficial this proved for him. Then, of course, his friendship with Barry, making it clear that Barry still was disciplined. Dad was fascinated now, especially the part about a mentor. "I wonder if those boys will find someone like your mentor," he mused. "Well, they have already," Jay said with a smile. Dad returned the smile, having understood immediately. "Again, I won't pry," he said. "Rob's life is his own, especially now that he is eighteen. As I said before, whatever you did for him was beneficial, that much I know." "Well, for starters I encouraged nudity," Jay said, with both chuckling. "I hope you don't mind that I, too, was naked much of our time together." "Not at all. Again, it seems to have been good for him. I'm guessing you had him over your lap, too." Dad figured he'd just go for it. Again, he was fine with whatever had gone on, but also curious. "Since you put it that way, yes, I did. As so often is the case, it did him good. Oh, I'm never brutal, but learned well from my mentor that lads do well with 'maintenance spankings.'" He went on to explain that concept further. Dad was impressed and agreed that it seemed a good philosophy and that it worked if it was part of Rob's new maturity. Jay felt it was. Jay told some of what went on and how he liked to use weekends in the country as a way of developing a routine and understanding of maintenance spankings, and that he had done that with both Rob and Billy. He did admit that Billy received a punishment spanking, too, over the summer. Dad was amused by that. Jay spent some time telling about his own mentor in the college days. "He firmly believed that regular spankings were good for a young man. Again, not brutal, but really just reminders to behave, be well-focused on work, and that sort of thing. Which doesn't mean I didn't get punished a few times!" Jay smiled at the memory. "And, to put it directly, he mentored me in sex, teaching me how to pleasure my partner, a lesson that has served me well over the years since. Now, if the opportunity presents itself, I try to provide one or the other, or both, to lads who want, or seem, to need it. Or both!" Dad thanked him for his honesty and for being so forthcoming with a personal story. However, Jay believed that the lovemaking was always between him and his partner, so did not talk about his lovemaking with Rob and Billy. Dad, though, suspected something like that had gone on. Again, he didn't pry. The young waiter had been discrete through the meal, arriving only to serve or retrieve the various courses. Dad noticed him, and his round bottom, but nothing more passed between them other than the expected. Jay, however, made it clear to the young man that he was being watched. As he hoped, this did elicit some small signs of nervousness, mixed with growing interest on the lad's part. Jay was getting the idea that this one wanted the spanking he didn't yet know he was going to get. Or even know he wanted. This would be fun! The men took some time deciding on desserts. They both said that normally they would pass on that, but this was a somewhat festive occasion, so why not? The waiter was duly dispatched with their orders, returning a few minutes later with the desserts and coffee. They lingered over this course, conversation moving away from Rob to other areas of mutual interest, talk about their jobs, and their plans for the fall. Dad insisted on paying the bill and Jay was gracious and accepted. They agreed that they would like to continue the friendship now, perhaps dinners at their own homes. The young waiter made a point of making eye contact with Jay as the men were leaving. Jay dropped behind to speak with the manager, who was a friend. Dad was fine with waiting in the foyer. "Who is the waiter who served us tonight?" he asked. The manager smiled, knowing Jay's interests. "That is Vic. He's been with us for about six months now. He's very good, as I'm sure you noticed." "Yes, I've been pleased with his service both times now that he has had my table. I could not help but notice something else about him," Jay added, with a grin. His friend knew exactly what Jay meant. "I'm sure you did. He's been a good and efficient waiter, but I have no doubt he would benefit from your attention." "I am eager to give him that attention," Jay replied. He gave the manager his card and was assured it would be passed along to Vic. "Thanks! Good night and I'll see you soon." "I hope so!" Jay and the manager had gotten together at Jay's for some fun, fun which included more than one spanking from Jay, so he knew what Vic would get. He also enjoyed his time with Jay and always looked forward to more. He would get it. Outside, the men said good night with a hug. Dad felt good about what he'd learned. He would keep it to himself, but was glad to know that Rob had been in such good hands. Jay, too, felt good about the evening, though his thoughts already had turned toward Vic being naked over his lap. It would happen soon.