Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 00:41:18 EST From: Dianic007@aol.com Subject: Mistress of Mistresses MISTRESS OF MISTRESSES by Roberta Angela Dee Dianic007@aol.com I was introduced to Mistress Tanya through Mistress Mir. Ms. Mir is a practitioner of the arts of bondage and discipline, as well as sadomasochism, collectively referred to as BDSM. Mistress Mir is an elegant African American woman who resides in New Jersey. She owns one of the most elaborately fitted dungeons in the United States, and has been a practitioner of BDSM for more than 25 years. Mistress Tanya is a Latin America mistress who wanted to discuss what she believed was her crowning achievement: the total feminization of a submissive male. Our interview took place at her home in Westbury, New York -- an upper middle class region of Long Island. Roberta Angela Dee (RAD): Looking at your home, it is obvious that you treasure fine and delicate works of art. How does one who treasures such delicate works become a practitioner of the brutal art of BDSM. Mistress Tanya (Ms. T): It's a misconception to believe that BDSM is totally concerned with brutality and pain. It is mostly a relationship based on love and trust, as well as an appreciation for the beautiful bond that can exist between two human being. In that sense, it is very much like a fine and delicate work of art. RAD: And what led you to become a Mistress? Ms. T: The cost of living on Long Island is quite high. Many years ago, I began supplementing my income through prostitution. As a prostitute, I developed a clientele of submissives. These submissives eventually became my focus because they were willing to pay more for my services and did not require sex. RAD: That's a pretty good arrangement. So, if not for sex, why did they come to you? Ms. T: Because they wanted to be dominated. That's what being a submissive is all about. It's about relinquishing your freedom to a superior individual in exchange for their love, guidance and protection. RAD: Protection? Protection from what? Ms. T: Protection from a world where they are forced to think and make decision. Some people reach a point in their lives where they just wish to obey. Many of my clients are responsible leaders and business people. They lead and make decisions all day. Their responsibilities can be enormous. Within the environment of my dungeon, they are protected from their world. RAD: I'm not sure I understand. Wouldn't it be just as easy for them to take a vacation or sit at home watching the boob tube -- Barbara Walters or MSNBC? Ms. T: (laughing) They certainly could, if all they wanted was mindless entertainment. However, you must remember that most of these people are complex individuals who seek complex relationships. Being submissive does not mean being mindless. RAD: I understand. Now, let's cut to the chase. Why do you refer to yourself as the Mistress of Mistresses? Is it vanity or is there some basis to your claim? Ms. T: I refer to myself as the Mistress of Mistresses -- at least in the United States, because I believe I have achieved what no other American mistress has achieved -- the total feminization of a submissive male. RAD: Why is that such a significant achievement? And what precisely have you done that has not been achieved by any other American mistress? Ms. T: In the culture of BDSM, there is an activity referred to as "forced feminization." It usually involves a submissive cross- dresser. The cross dresser is usually required to wear a few articles of female clothing or undergarments. In the more dramatic instances, the submissive is actually trained to be a maid. There are several mistresses with live-in maids who are feminized males. Off hand, I can think of Mistress Scarlet De Medici, Mistress Julie of Maryland, Mistress Kitten and Lady Payne. They each have at least one maid who is male but forced to serve and to dress as a female maid. RAD: So, what have you done that is any different from what the mistresses you've mentioned? Ms. T: I emasculated the male submissive and left him with no choice but to live as a woman, Miss Dee. I know of no other mistress in the United States who has accomplished this. RAD: OK. Well, who are we talking about? And before I ask you anything else, please tell me why do you consider this to be an accomplishment. Ms. T: His name was Edgar S. He now lives and works as Elizabeth S. RAD: So, he's no longer your submissive. Ms. T: Well, he's no longer a he. But to answer your question: No. She's no longer my submissive. RAD: And to get back to my earlier question: Why do you consider Edgar's emasculation to be an accomplishment? Ms. T: Well, Roberta, it has to do with the role of women in our society. Most women adapt to a culturally oppressive society that demeans the significance of women and those things that are important to women. Few women recognize or accept themselves as actually being superior to men. And the reason they don't, Roberta, is because they are culturally conditioned to accept a more submissive position in society. >From my perspective, the act of emasculating a male is actually doing him a favor. He becomes superior by becoming more feminine. Unfortunately, most men will only allow themselves to be feminized to a point. They acquire just enough femininity to satisfy their fetishtic sexuality. There is, however, an enormous difference between being a sissy maid and being a woman. You can train a man to be a very good sissy maid in less than a week, Roberta. It took two years to develop Elizabeth to the point where she could live and work as a woman, and function in society as a female. RAD: I can understand that there's a whole lot more involved in doing what you've done, Mistress Tanya. But could you have done it if Elizabeth had not been a willing participant? And have you really accomplished something that no other mistress could accomplish if she had the right subject? Ms. T: (pauses, thinking) Well, I certainly had to encourage Edgar to commit to becoming female and not just a sissy maid. That took a good deal of persuasion and behavior modification. I made it clear that he would be rewarded only for those things he did that embraced femininity. And as he progressed, I made it more difficult for him to receive a reward. By the time I was done with him, he wanted to become a woman. Now, whether any other Mistress could have accomplished this, I can think of only a very few. And they would have to be willing to devote a good deal of time -- assuming they had a willing subject. RAD: Is a willing subject so difficult to find? Ms. T: (laughs) Most definitely! You have to remember, I supplied Elizabeth with female hormones. Within 6 months, she had pronounced female breasts. She could no longer achieve an erection and was completely and permanently sterile. Most men would not be willing to surrender their ability to achieve an erection. RAD: How did you manage to persuade Elizabeth to continue taking female hormones? Ms. T: Well, I didn't initially know about all of the side effects of taking female hormones. I didn't realize that she would become more emotional, that her skin texture would change, or that her bottom would get larger. So, it was a learning process for both she and I. Initially, I would strike her penis with a leather strap, if she responded to photographs of nude females or to videos of nude women. Eventually, she stopped responding. I thought it was because of my behavior modification techniques. In reality, it was that the hormones had left her chemically castrated. At that point, I began telling her that to relieve her sexual frustrations she would need to learn how to physically respond as a female. RAD: How did you go about teaching her? Ms. T: Well, she already had developed an appreciable amount of sensitivity in her breasts. So, I encouraged her to fondle them while fingering her anus. Eventually, she learned how to make herself climax in that matter. Next, I introduced her to my strap- on dildo. She enjoyed this immensely and was soon telling me of dreams she had of being with a real man. I knew, immediately, of course that she was hinting that she wanted a male lover. RAD: Did you provide her with a male companion? Ms. T: Of course! I had a male slave who was more than willing to have his cock sucked by a willing female. And he was more than happy to screw her afterwards. In fact, the more he crewed her, the more feminine and womanly she became. RAD: I can just imagine. So, how did the decision come about for her to leave? Ms. T: Ironically, whereas she was quite happy to be a submissive male, she was not nearly as happy being a submissive female. She wanted the right to choose -- particularly her own sexual mate. The separation, however, was very amicable. She still corresponds with me from time to time, and she telephones occasionally. RAD: And how is she doing? Ms. T: She's doing quite well for herself. She manages a gift shop here on Long Island. She participates in civic functions and lives with a fairly successful gentleman. Basically, she's become a working housewife. RAD: So, your relationship with her has had a happy ending. Would you agree with my assessment? Ms. T: Certainly. She's become a woman and she's earned the respect of the women in her community. Just as importantly, she has a good relationship with her husband. I'd say that would be a happy ending for most women. RAD: I agree. And thank you for a very enlightening and interesting interview. Ms. T: You're quite welcome. The End The author may be contacted at Dianic007@aol.com. (c) 1998 - Roberta Angela Dee @>~~>~>~~~